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Standard User AstroBenny123
(newbie) Wed 08-Jun-16 09:42:54
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Netgear vs TP-Link router?


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Hi,
So I have a choice between two routers of equal price and they are my essentially my only options as they have a VDSL modem built in.
VDSL modem/router combos don't work with firmware like DD-WRT so the software experience is quite important.
Any ideas between the two?
http://uk.tp-link.com/products/details/cat-15_Archer...
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/networking/dsl-...

Thanks smile
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 08-Jun-16 09:49:30
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I don't have personal experience of either of those but want to clarify your statement that they are your only options due to VDSL modem built in? Are there other criteria you are using to select as there are other products out there with VDSL (eg Billion do a few different models).
Standard User AstroBenny123
(newbie) Wed 08-Jun-16 09:52:25
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In reply to a post by ian72:
I don't have personal experience of either of those but want to clarify your statement that they are your only options due to VDSL modem built in? Are there other criteria you are using to select as there are other products out there with VDSL (eg Billion do a few different models).


Yes, I need a VDSL modem built in as I want to replace my ISP supplied router modem and combo. I wanted to spend about £100 and these are the only routers around that price point.


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Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Jun-16 10:23:43
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If you're connected to a Huawei FTTC cabinet (see here) then i would go for the Netgear D6400 as that has the same broadcom chipset and also it was one of the first VDSL2 modem routers to be released so should have stable firmware. However for 93 quid Amazon are the selling the superior TP Link VR900, albeit a nearly new model. This also uses a broadcom VDSL2 chipset but its wifi performance is significantly better than the 2 routers you mentioned.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B01132GCP0...

Or 105 quid from ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TP-LINK-Archer-VR900-AC190...

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Standard User AstroBenny123
(newbie) Wed 08-Jun-16 10:47:56
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
If you're connected to a Huawei FTTC cabinet (see here) then i would go for the Netgear D6400 as that has the same broadcom chipset and also it was one of the first VDSL2 modem routers to be released so should have stable firmware. However for 93 quid Amazon are the selling the superior TP Link VR900, albeit a nearly new model. This also uses a broadcom VDSL2 chipset but its wifi performance is significantly better than the 2 routers you mentioned.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B01132GCP0...

Or 105 quid from ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TP-LINK-Archer-VR900-AC190...


I'm pretty sure we're connected to a Huawei cabinet even though I can't actually find my cabinet tongue The BT wholesale checker says I'm connected to Cabinet 18 with a minimum of 79.8Mbps and a maximum of 80Mbps so it must be pretty near by! I've attached some pictures of local cabinets from around my street and maybe you can help me identify them as they aren't numbered!
And out of interest, from the link you provided regarding the cabinet type, what does it mean when it says:
"The FTTC cabinet will usually be located no more than 50m from the green PCP cabinet as per recommended guide lines. In exceptional circumstances the absolute maximum is 100m"
What's the difference between a PCP cabinet and an FTTC cabinet?

So this cabinet is located about 10M from our house, just round the corner:
https://gyazo.com/60b671e75eaf2d968f156e52b89a45d8

Then about 50M away on a different road there is this cabinet:
https://gyazo.com/b314460d62171394ef1ad1cae518773a

At the end of our road, about 80M away, there is this group of run-down cabinets:
https://gyazo.com/417328544d19a9475eb7b3a8fb8d6324

And finally, about 100M away, over an a different road is this BT cabinet, with no number and no grills tongue : https://gyazo.com/fcc9107635ae90c89cbfad373770c835
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Jun-16 11:08:22
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And finally, about 100M away, over an a different road is this BT cabinet, with no number and no grills tongue : https://gyazo.com/fcc9107635ae90c89cbfad373770c835


That appears to be the PCP cabinet to which your copper phone line is connected to. Usually within 50m of this cabinet, there should be a FTTC cabinet...its normally green and has vents. It may not be appear on Google maps so you might need to go for a walk smile

A good explanation of how FTTC services work
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/fttc.htm

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Edited by baby_frogmella (Wed 08-Jun-16 11:15:14)

Standard User AstroBenny123
(newbie) Wed 08-Jun-16 12:12:23
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
In reply to a post by AstroBenny123:
And finally, about 100M away, over an a different road is this BT cabinet, with no number and no grills tongue : https://gyazo.com/fcc9107635ae90c89cbfad373770c835


That appears to be the PCP cabinet to which your copper phone line is connected to. Usually within 50m of this cabinet, there should be a FTTC cabinet...its normally green and has vents. It may not be appear on Google maps so you might need to go for a walk smile

A good explanation of how FTTC services work
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/fttc.htm


I found this cabinet about 5M from the one you quoted:
https://gyazo.com/82b0458d43d29adae2f1e53d0217891c

Anyway, I looked up the type of cabinets in the area and they are all Huawei
https://gyazo.com/3af52654eeab0a07355d2ee75da3827e

Edited by AstroBenny123 (Wed 08-Jun-16 12:12:36)

Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Wed 08-Jun-16 12:20:23
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This? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.457525,-0.1856457,...

Use the Ginp Formula to determine if your vdsl2 connection is with or without G.INP.
Divide your IP Profile by your Sync Speed and the answer is 0.9669 (with) or 0.9679 (without)
Standard User AstroBenny123
(newbie) Wed 08-Jun-16 12:41:48
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This? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.457525,-0.1856457,...


That's the one.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 08-Jun-16 12:41:58
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In that case the TP Link VR900 is an excellent choice provided you can get it for ~£100.

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