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Standard User Callumpy
(learned) Sat 22-Oct-16 15:12:37
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Own router on Sky (ER110 to OpenWRT)


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Hello, I signed up for Sky about a week ago, but just yesterday received their 'Sky Q Hub' (ER110) through the post. It only has a 2 port switch, no good for my setup.

I then went on a search on what the login details are for Sky's network, expecting them to be the same as BT's who I am currently with, but it appears Sky use a different authentication method.

I would like to use my OpenWRT'd WR1043ND and HG612 on Sky, but I am only able to find guides on moving away from older Sky routers such as the SR102 where people use Wireshark to sniff the initial connection in order to get the login information.

What do I do to avoid using this ER110, help would be appreciated smile
Also, if possible, I would like to continue to have IPv6, do Sky use a special configuration for that?

Modem: Huawei HG612 3B -- Unlocked SP08 Firmware w/ BLOB A2pv6C038m.d24j
Router: TP-Link WR1043ND -- OpenWRT Chaos Calmer 15.05.1

Current Connection: BT Infinity 2 (80/20)
Previous Connection: BE Pro (24/2.5) -- Left because of Sky takeover.

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Standard User iand
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 22-Oct-16 17:17:50
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Re: Own router on Sky (ER110 to OpenWRT)


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you could stay with the sky router and use an extra switch

https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-SF1008D-TP-Link-...

This 10/100 8 port switch costs £9 plus postage, or you could get

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-GS208-100UKS-Gigabi...

This 10/100/1000 8 port switch costs £14 plus postage.

I stopped worrying about the number of ports on the Router years ago and just bought an 8 port 10/100/1000 device. All of my kit is plugged into that and I just plug 1 connection into the router.

IanD
Standard User choppersrock
(newbie) Sat 22-Oct-16 17:47:43
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Re: Own router on Sky (ER110 to OpenWRT)


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yes sky do have some specific IP6V settings.

I think the choice of using your own router got a lot more difficult due to not all of other 3rd party routers fully supporting sky's IPV6 settings. for example some of the merlin forks still don't fully support ipv6 for sky yet they can authenticate with sky servers for general internet access.

You have a few choices. Use a switch and stick with sky's router. I use pfsense which supports ipv6 and the option 61 settings sky need.

You don't need to get the login details any more - you just need the format to be

xxxxx@skydsl|xxxxxxxx - this needs to be in the option 61 box

I also enter the mac address of the sr102 I had in the mac address clone field. Some say you don' need it but thats your choice.

3rd party routers that support both requirements include the rt-ac87u, but you have to flash it with a specific fork to get the IPV6 to work properly.
The netgear r7000 using another fork of ddwrt will support both requirements but needs specific settings - I guess the R8000 would as well if configured properly and using the correct build etc..

I would have a look at www.skyuser.co.uk for further info as there is some shared info on there for the netgears.

If you want to try pfsense - pm me and I will share my setttings..
my results
Test with IPv4 DNS record
ok (0.081s) using ipv4
Test with IPv6 DNS record
ok (0.082s) using ipv6
Test with Dual Stack DNS record
ok (0.105s) using ipv6
Test for Dual Stack DNS and large packet
ok (0.056s) using ipv6
Test IPv4 without DNS
ok (0.070s) using ipv4
Test IPv6 without DNS
ok (0.089s) using ipv6
Test IPv6 large packet
ok (0.119s) using ipv6
Test if your ISP's DNS server uses IPv6
ok (0.096s) using ipv6
Find IPv4 Service Provider
ok (0.487s) using ipv4 ASN 5607
Find IPv6 Service Provider
ok (0.422s) using ipv6 ASN 5607

my setup is modem>pfsense box>switch>wap & lan

Edited by choppersrock (Sat 22-Oct-16 17:50:40)


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Standard User Callumpy
(learned) Sat 22-Oct-16 19:23:14
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Re: Own router on Sky (ER110 to OpenWRT)


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Looks like I've picked a very bad ISP in the aim of saving some money, damn.

Right, so OpenWRT supports the DHCP options apparently.

What do you mean when you say I don't need the login details, what exactly do I put in the DHCP settings? I thought the "*@skydsl|*" was the login details.

Modem: Huawei HG612 3B -- Unlocked SP08 Firmware w/ BLOB A2pv6C038m.d24j
Router: TP-Link WR1043ND -- OpenWRT Chaos Calmer 15.05.1

Current Connection: BT Infinity 2 (80/20)
Previous Connection: BE Pro (24/2.5) -- Left because of Sky takeover.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Oct-16 19:35:30
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If it's only Ethernet ports you need have you considered getting an Ethernet switch?

The wireless on your WR1043ND is a significant downgrade to the sky q hubs wifi in terms of speed.
Standard User choppersrock
(newbie) Sat 22-Oct-16 19:41:58
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Hi.

What I meant was originally you needed to obtain the actual login username and password in full, now you can put what you like before and after the @skydsl part.
Hope that makes sense
Standard User Callumpy
(learned) Sat 22-Oct-16 19:54:09
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In reply to a post by choppersrock:
Hi.

What I meant was originally you needed to obtain the actual login username and password in full, now you can put what you like before and after the @skydsl part.
Hope that makes sense


That's interesting! When I get the changeover to Sky I'll try that then, just all x's with the @skydsl part in the middle right?

You guys are right though, I should probably just give it up and get a switch and deal with the Q Hub for a bit. The main concern is for Ethernet ports, I don't like using wireless where possible.

Equally I would quite like to use my own kit so I can see the detailed stats, and have the extra features OpenWRT provides.

Modem: Huawei HG612 3B -- Unlocked SP08 Firmware w/ BLOB A2pv6C038m.d24j
Router: TP-Link WR1043ND -- OpenWRT Chaos Calmer 15.05.1

Current Connection: BT Infinity 2 (80/20)
Previous Connection: BE Pro (24/2.5) -- Left because of Sky takeover.

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Edited by Callumpy (Sat 22-Oct-16 19:54:53)

Standard User choppersrock
(newbie) Sat 22-Oct-16 20:11:18
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Check out pfsense. It free. Firewall and router plus vpn and works with sky's requirements for ipv6 plus if you have a spare pc lying about you can install it on that for testing if you want, will need 2 nics though.
I use it as I have a static ip from sky fibre pro days so I can vpn to home when away. Still need a switch and wap but I just prefer to run my own stuff.
anything@skydsl|shouldwork (remember the sign after the dsl"|")
Standard User Callumpy
(learned) Thu 27-Oct-16 19:50:20
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Right, so I've now got the Sky 'enabled'.

My HG612 claims to be connected to the cab, but I can't authenticate with my router.

I've got it set to DHCP Client, and I wrote xxxx@skydsl|xxxxx in the Client ID field, I even added in the WAN MAC address of the ER110 as I thought that was the point of MER authentication.

Any ideas?

EDIT: It appears Sky aren't giving me an IPv6 address either, even their own s*** router isn't getting an address.

Modem: Huawei HG612 3B -- Unlocked SP08 Firmware w/ BLOB A2pv6C038m.d24j
Router: TP-Link WR1043ND -- OpenWRT Chaos Calmer 15.05.1

Current Connection: BT Infinity 2 (80/20)
Previous Connection: BE Pro (24/2.5) -- Left because of Sky takeover.

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Edited by Callumpy (Thu 27-Oct-16 19:51:35)

Standard User choppersrock
(newbie) Thu 27-Oct-16 20:14:25
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Re: Own router on Sky (ER110 to OpenWRT)


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Well your wan port should be configured to automatic ip if you are using a 3rd party router.

I assume you are not using pfsense. Ipv6 needs to be enabled. Its not immediate far as I know. The only way to check is to see if sky q or sr102 shows a valid ip6 config then you can use your own. I would disable your ipv6 config for now then once you get the wan port connected properly re-enable it.
What are you using router wise now.
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