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Standard User MatHal
(newbie) Sun 11-Mar-18 01:08:40
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Re: Proven Wi-Fi Hacking


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In reply to a post by billford:
In reply to a post by nemeth782:
In reply to a post by ian72:
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Indeed. The owner of the line is 100% responsible for what happens on it and so if someone was to access any dodgy (illegal) sites then you could have a knock on the door and unless you have some very good logging it would be difficult to prove the neighbour was responsible. Effectively if you share your connection you need to consider ISP level logging to protect yourselves in the event of an issue.

Sorry, but could you provide some sort of reference to legislation that makes this the case?

I get that suspicion would likely fall on the subscriber in the first instance, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean they are responsible for the criminal acts of others.
There may or may not be any relevant legislation, but sure as hell it will be part of your ISP's T&Cs. They've got their own backsides to cover.


If I were the neighbour being asked I'd be rather wary given that the police can and do simply come in and take every part of a suspect's computer (including keyboard, monitor, mouse etc.) rather than just the storage items and, no doubt, keep them for months, years or forever.
It was precisely because of all the confusion above that I decided the best way might be hacking rather than asking my (friendly) neighbour! In the event I didn't need to attempt it as my internet wasn't cut off.

Although I've not read mine I'm very sure the ISP's T&Cs will ban sharing - they have profits to consider!
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 11-Mar-18 11:31:39
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Re: Proven Wi-Fi Hacking


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Remember accessing a wifi network without permission is an offence under the computer misuse act, i.e. you've broken the encryption

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Standard User longedge
(committed) Sun 11-Mar-18 22:04:45
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Re: Proven Wi-Fi Hacking


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My experience is that the people hacking wifi have probably got iffy stuff on their own device/s. Once they're in, the network is exposed (via the intruder) to the incessant probing that goes on 24/7.


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Standard User amiga_dude
(newbie) Sun 11-Mar-18 23:06:55
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Re: Proven Wi-Fi Hacking


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You also be in trouble under Communications Act 2003

The last case of someone being arested I know of is:

BBC News: Is stealing wireless wrong?
Standard User derekdel
(committed) Wed 14-Mar-18 08:37:03
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Re: Proven Wi-Fi Hacking


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BT allow you to do this on their BT hotspots from thousands of home users routers!
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 14-Mar-18 09:37:26
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The key is ALLOW, i.e. the network is set up to be shared and they know a bit about the person piggy backing too.

In BT Wi-Fi via HomeHubs you are using a tunnel so your traffic is distinct from the homeowners, so if you break a law over content accessed the homeowner is not affected.

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 14-Mar-18 14:10:53
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Additionally you have to have a login to the WiFi network - and that is traceable so all actions are directly attributable to the "account" that did them not to the home owner.
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