Finchampstead/Eversley

My inlaws live on the Nine Mile Ride near Finchampstead and I believe they are quite a distance from their exchange which I think is in Eversley. The have to put up with 0.3Mbs download and 0.15Mbs upload speeds. It's a real shame. There appears to be cable laid in the pavement outside their house (there was a trench dug some time ago with covers periodically labelled 'CATV' but Virgin doesn't seem to cover their area. But there is a spark of hope as the Eversley exchange should be upgraded to fibre by the end of this year. It can't come soon enough!

Ian

Yes, fibre is on it's way. Not a moment too soon, ADSL in Finchampstead sucks, big time.
Which cab are they off of ? 5, 1 or 3 ?

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes, fibre is on it's way. Not a moment too soon, ADSL in Finchampstead sucks, big time.
Which cab are they off of ? 5, 1 or 3 ?

No idea where the cab is but the house is 400 yards or so west on Nine Mile Ride from where the A321 crosses.

Ian

Ouch, that'll be cab 3 then, the [censored] end of it an' all. Just down the road is fed off of Crowthorne, and about 2k shorter.

Do you have any guess as to what FTTC will bring in the way of improvement to them? Am I right in thinking that there is no loss over fibre so it's just the distance from the cabinet to the house that determines the performance?

Ian

Correct distance to the cabinet is the key

My son lives on Roycroft Lane. Any idea which cab he would be on and where it is so he can see what sort of speed he is likely to get?

Hmm, can't picture Roycroft, just checked on Google maps, Eversley isn't my area, but at a guess, cab 10, junction of of Gorse Ride North and Barkham Ride, (90% sure) or the cab on McCarthy Way (soz, can't remember that one's number).

Where do you get your information from about likely broadband upgrades, please ?
I have an Eversley number and am on Nine Mile Ride 100M from Kiln Ride.
I'd love to know how to find out the upgrade schedule so I can check from time to time. Regards, Richard.

Where do you get your information from

A few years experience.

We live in McCarthy Way and found we can not work on the broadband, won't even open Google some days. Is there any news on upgrades yet?? I was thinking about satalite bb, we are trying to run a business from home but proving impossible. Have got mobile dongles but that not great either.

You *should* be syncing better than the original poster, as their line will be longer than yours. I guess you've tried all the usual stuff, in the test socket ? Different router, etc ?

As as someone with inside knowledge ....

I had heard that the cab's around Finchampstead were due to be surveyed in March with a view to installing FFTC for September. Don't suppose you have any idea if that occurred, and if any issues may have been found?

Cheers.

Bad news for us Finchamsptead folks. I am new to the Nine Mile Ride area and can not even get BB from BT due to my long line! BT informed me today that fibre is now due in March 2012. Based on my experience with BT, I would put money on it being nearer to March 2013.

Any idea what cab will service me? I am down Heath Ride.

Cab 3 at a guess, I wasn't aware of anywhere round there that could no service what-so-ever. Did you actually get an engineer sent out ?

I guess cab 3 as well.

No engineer came out. BT said that they would only send an engineer out if there was a fault with the line (which their tests said there was not). I am pretty cheesed off with them.

And now BT are saying June 2012

My view, this isn't going to happen.

It isn't fibre optic, but I've just received a letter from Sky saying that their broadband service is now available in this area and their web-site accepted my order for an address in Gorse Ride. It will be the same ADSL over copper service over which I currently get about 2.25 Mbps, but it is much cheaper than any alternative I've found (free for the first three months then £7.50 per month) for unlimited downloads and with access to the Anytime+ service (video on demand) if the connection speed stays the same. I assume that Sky will have written to all their existing customers in the area, but I thought this might be of interest if you haven't received the letter or you're not already a Sky customer. At long, long last it seems we have some competition on the Eversley exchange.

No, it's fibre to the cabinet, and as you look around Finchampstead you'll see the fibre DSLAM cabinets appearing next to the existing street cabinets. This will mean huge improvements in speed for those who sign up to it, Sky, at the moment, still do not use this service.

Broadband switched to Sky this morning. Early speed tests look positive - 3.5 Mbps vs. 2.25 Mbps before. Not a big fan of Sky because of the Murdochs connection but the benefits of a 50% speed increase (so far) at lower monthly cost are undeniable.

I live on St James Road and after entering my phone number in to the online checker on the bt.com/infinity page, I'm given an estimated date of December 2011. When I look at the Region Map on the same page, Eversley is showing a date of December 2012. I'm a little confused..

As a few others have posted above we've heard dates of September '11, December '11, March '12 and now December '12 for the Eversley upgrade.. Has anyone been able to get any clarification from BT on this? I've spoken to several people at customer support and essentially the response I've been given is only Wholesale knows and they're not 'customer facing'.

Lastly, I used the Wholesale line checker and was given this response:
(https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/static/Community/Broadband_Community/Coverage/ADSL_Availibility_Checker.html#)
"Your cabinet is planned to have WBC FTTC by 31st December 2011. Our test also indicates that your line currently supports a fibre technology with an estimated WBC FTTC Broadband where consumers have received downstream line speed of 31.5Mbps and upstream line speed of 12.3Mbps."

Another date which indicates December 2011. I really wish BT would offer some kind of statement updating us on what's happening.

I live at the Nine Mile Ride/Kiln Ride/Kiln Ride Extension crossroads, my Sky Connect was upgraded to Sky Unlimited on 27 Oct...and lo and behold my download speeds have more than HALVED!!!! I've given it the 10 days testing period but no change.

I was getting about 2Mbps on Connect, now I'm just about scraping 880Kbps. Not happy.

Time to get on at Sky I think.

Probably their DLM has got you set at a higher target noise margin, so a copy of before and after for line stats would go a long way

..for many of us in Finch on the Eversley Exchange it's been a bit academic over the last week: someone cut the cable to hundreds of houses (no phone, no BB).

Fortunately the [broadband supplier] has drafted in some new squirrels-to-carry-the-acorns-with-the-1s-and-0s-on-them...

So now full normal service & data-rates now returned to Finch. Hurrah!

Even once fibre appears in areas this will go on still, as they wont realise there is no copper until they have wrecked any fibre in the ducts etc

I am not quite sure what is happening with infinity, I live in Gorse Ride North connected to the cabinet which is less than 50m away and this has been changed to a new infinity cab.

However I have just spoken to BT business and the enablement date now seems to have been moved to December 2012, this is despite the openreach boys having layed the fibre at least 1 month ago.

So unless anybody else has any further information it looks like we will have to wait another 12 months for reasonable broadband speed

BT website updated to show that the Eversley exchange will now not be updated until end June 2012

The following was reported at Finch Parish Council meeting on 22 Nov 2011:

BT – Finchampstead
Justin Rhodes, the OpenReach rollout project manager was at this meeting. He re-iterated the rollout was on schedule to begin in early January 2012 and any other press / website timescales had no substance in fact.

Here again are the locations for the new fibre optic cabinets (NGA’s):-

PCP 1 NINE MILE RIDE CROSS ROADS
PCP 2 JCN FINCHAMPSTEAD RD &, BARKHAM RIDE
PCP 3 OPP BELMONT STORES 9 MILE RIDE
PCP 4 REC.GROUND THE VILLAGE FINCHAMPSTEAD
PCP 5 O/S THE GABLES NINE MILE RIDE
PCP 9 O/S 6 GORSE RIDE SOUTH
PCP 10 GORSE RIDE/BARKHAM RIDE
PCP 11 NASHGROVE LANE/MCCARTHY WAY
PCP 12 OPP 47 BARKHAM RIDE
PCP 15 O/S 58 NASHGROVE LANE

I can report that PCP 12 OPP 47 BARKHAM RIDE has not yet been upgraded. Anyone have any update on the others?

POP 9 (Gorse Ride South) has pavement markings for the new cab and an (assumed underground) junction box, actually on Kelsey Ave (about 100 yards from the Gorse Ride South existing cab.). But no sign of any civil works starting soon. Markings have been then for a month.

Apparetly on 21st March there was an open meeting of the Finchampstead Parish council at which a BT Openreach official (Justin Rhodes) spoke on progress on this implementation. I was not there but received an email from someone who was that reported :

1. Two of the DSLAMS that cover the area of the Hogwood Industrial Estate and Nine Mile Ride Industrial Estate at the eastern end of Nine Mile ride have been deleted as the area covered is largely commercial. Apparently there are different ways of delivering fast broadband to these premises. BT did not indicate whether the houses in this area would get an upgrade.

2. Of the 13 left a further one will be indefinitely delayed because it is difficult to site the DSLAM green cabinet within the prescribed 50m of the existing one. It is at the start of McCarthy Way.

I live on Waverley Way so not sure whether the McCarthy Way green cabinet is the one I am connected to (if anyone knows please put me out of my misery) but thought this info might be useful for others in any case.

Steve

If you post your full postcode we can tell you which cabinet you are connected to.

It's RG40 4YD.

Steve

Two results for your postcode, 98% of the lines go to cabinet 15 on Eversley which is planned for phase 8a (July-September).

1% of lines go to cab 65 on the Wokingham exchange, that cab was planned for phase 4a so should be live, you are most likely on cab 15.

THEV EVERSLEY RG404YD {THEV}{P15} 0 98% 18.44 8a Yes FTTC

THWM WOKINGHAM RG404YD {THWM}{P65} 0 1% 23.03 4a Yes FTTC

http://g.co/maps/jvcgg

I believe this could be cabinet 15.

Thanks so much. I know I am on the Eversley exchange so it looks like it must be cabinet 15 which is very reassuring.

Thanks again

Steve

Lot's of work happening near POP9. Openreach vans have been busy at the underground junction box at the junction of Nile Mile Ride and Gorse Ride South over the last two weeks. Still no signs of civil works at the markings made on the junction on Gorse Ride South and Kelsey Ave. But still hopeful...

Hi,

Is there any chance you could look up for postcode RG40 4UA as well.

Also, if it is a space issue it would make more sense that it would be more difficult to locate cabinet 15 as opposed to 11 - not sure if anyone could clarify?

Thanks

THEV EVERSLEY RG404UA {THEV}{P11} 0 100% 29.47 8a Yes FTTC

Eversley exchange planned for FTTC in phase 8a (July to September)

http://g.co/maps/wec2e

Just found that cab, could be 11, if you check in person to see if their are any numbers?

With your second question about space issue's do you mean space on the pavement to siutate the FTTC cab?

Hi,

Many thanks for the PCP info.

With regards to the second question, I was referring to space but I guess there could be other issues. The cabinet in your link is No11 as this is marked on the side. I haven't checked in person but am pretty sure the one in your previous post to the Waverley Way questions is cabinet 15 as well.

If the cabinet not being upgraded is due to space, there is little space immediately near cabinet 15 as you have seen, it is set back into a brick wall with a relatively narrow pavement. As you can see, cabinet 11 has a bit more space around it.

However, both pcp info's suggest July-Sept implementation date so maybe they will be done - or the data has not been updated as yet?

Many thanks for your help

Regarding Cabinet 11 on McCarthy Way. I just spoke to an Open Reach guy who was working on it and asked if he knew about the upgrade. Unfortunately he didn't but did state that cab 11 was one that should be given priority because it uses a lot of aluminum cabling and was always causing them problems. He said that, from appearance, there was no reason he could see why a cabinet could not be placed well within the required distance - he said there was a 240 volt supply and ample room to put it - he did however say that councilors decide if a new cabinet could be placed so maybe they have thrown a spanner in the works??

I only hope that it does get sorted - I will be so annoyed if it doesn't happen - cannot put up with my low bandwidth and unreliable ADSL connection much longer!!

Have to wait and see if the cabinets do appear between July-September though this is only a rough date it all depends how far ahead or behind Openreach are in your area.

Only real issues that councils can slow or stop cabinets is if the area is a conservation area, where OR can have trouble with planning approval due to residents etc not wanting the cabinet outside of their house etc.

Hi

Is it possible to find out if / when POP 9 is scheduled? As previously commented we have paint markings within 50 yards of the existing cab marked as DSLAM and 4 way junction. But seeing as how so many other replacements cabs have already been installed I am wondering if POP 9 is planned for later.

Post code is RG40 4|TY

Cheers

THEV EVERSLEY RG404TY {THEV}{P9} 0 100% 13.54 8a Yes FTTC

Is what the December spreadsheet comes back with, cab is planned and as the markings are their just have to wait for the work to begin.

So the wait continues.

Cheers

Hi i dont have a clue what cabinet im on but the Infinity checker still states June 2012. RG40 4PB Could you see which one im on. There was a new green cabinet put in on the corner of Barkham ride/Carolina place which im guessing is my one.

Your postcode comes back with this from the December spreadsheet.

THEV EVERSLEY RG404PB {THEV}{P12} 0 100% 25.52 8a Yes FTTC

From the above information your exchange is Eversley, your postcode is connected to cabinet 12 and 100% of the lines on your postcode connect to that cabinet.

25.52 is the expected improvment in line speed, so times that by what you can currently get (bsed on 40/10 products so 80/20 will give a higher speed).

The phase your cab is due live is 8a and is planned for FTTC, would look out for planned power works as that will be the next step for the cabinet before it goes live.

This should be cabinet 12

http://g.co/maps/3ccx8

Edited by ccxo (Thu 26-Apr-12 15:50:03)

Thats very interesting as i said a brand new box was installed just over a month ago now here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=RG404PB&ll=51.383977...

I wonder whats thats for?

You need to take a picture yourself and post it to this thread as the google street view just shows the grass corner and brick wall.

Does the box look like the Huawei128 or FTTC cab - 288 max?

http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/street_cabinets_etc.html

It seems that civil works have started on Gorse Ride South, I can only hope this is the new cab install....

Only work showing on roadworks that is telecoms is VM on the roundabout of nine mile ride and finchampstead rd.

Their is BT work on the Barkham road between the 28th-1st May between Woosehill Ln and Blandford Dr

In reply to a post by ccxo:

You need to take a picture yourself and post it to this thread as the google street view just shows the grass corner and brick wall.

Does the box look like the Huawei128 or FTTC cab - 288 max?

http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/street_cabinets_etc.html

The closest it looks like it the Huawei128. Wahts that one used for?

I spotted two guys working on two different boxes at the junction of Carolina Place & Barkham Ride yesterday, 1st May.

Mart

A Huweai cab is for celluar mobile ie. 2G or 3G mobile phones.

We've had OpenReach vans on Gorse Ride South all week. Lots on underground cable works, no new cab yet...

Post deleted by MrSaffron

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

A Huweai cab is for celluar mobile ie. 2G or 3G mobile phones.

Why are Openreach using them for fibre then??

Huawei make a pleothra of telecoms hardware so without photos to help identify the cabinet and contents a lot is speculation

In reply to a post by pitterbened:

Post deleted by MrSaffron

MrSaffron, while I appreciate that users should comply with forum rules, would be useful if you could supply a brief reason for deleting somebody's post.

Most of those following this thread will have a personal interest in the finchampstead upgrade, and with the every changing dates for our infinity enablement - we tend to be a suspicious lot - or perhaps that's just me

As it happens, as another CAB 9 party and no sign of a new cabinet I see little hope of BT hitting the currently published June date. CCXO: Not sure how your December data for July-Sep is more accurate, given that BT had revised their dates to June earlier in the year?

And while, I'm posting - does anybody have more info no what was said at that parish council meeting in terms of firm dates, or reasons for delays against the currently published public date of June?

Simple it was spam refering to unlocking a certain brand of phone

Cheers

The June date is just a placeholder, their is no 100% guarantee that the cabinet will go live before then.

Can easily slip into the next 3 month window, this 3 month window i am guessing is the length to each phase roughly, other people have different ideas on the phase dates.

The dates are only placeholders as Openreach works at best speed to enable a area, resources and delays affect the rollout across the country- why some areas are ahead and others behind.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by ccxo:

You need to take a picture yourself and post it to this thread as the google street view just shows the grass corner and brick wall.

Does the box look like the Huawei128 or FTTC cab - 288 max?

http://www.robertos.me.uk/html/street_cabinets_etc.html

The closest it looks like it the Huawei128. Wahts that one used for?

Can u take a photo and upload it to the site.

Baseplate installed for new cab on Kelsey Ave (from the Gorse Ride South cab, 09 I think).

Not long now???

I checked the Infinity checker on BT this morning and my expected date is still June but my estimated download has gone up from 30 to 66mb!!!

Hello, I see a box is being put up at the junction of Elgarth Drive and Nash Grove Lane. Does anyone know if this is to replace box 11 (McCarthy Way) or box 15 (.Nash Grove Lane) . I would very much hope it is box 11, or are we still to be 'delayed indefinitely'.
Lawrie

If you look on roadworks.org there's two roadworks planned this month on both streets. I suspect that both the FTTC cab is being installed and the PCP upgraded - you could be in luck!

Drove past there this morning, yep that's your fibre DSLAM cabinet.

Saw also the cabinets for 9, and 2 were in place.

Chatted to the NGA install guys, they were supposed to be blowing in and jointing up the feeds for 2, 12 and 10 today. However they have been having problems with existing ducts being blocked, hence today Options contractors working on the roundabout on junction of Finchampstead Rd/Barkham Ride.

Was working off cab 2, and noticed that the copper tails are not in yet.

But it's coming, sooner than you might expect.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Hello, I see a box is being put up at the junction of Elgarth Drive and Nash Grove Lane. Does anyone know if this is to replace box 11 (McCarthy Way) or box 15 (.Nash Grove Lane) . I would very much hope it is box 11, or are we still to be 'delayed indefinitely'.
Lawrie

I believe that the current works are to implement the FTTC for cabinet 15.

I have however had an email from Councillor Gore since the news of indefinate delay to box 11.He said that he met with Openreach on 23 April and agreed the position for the new cabinet in McCarthy Way - therefore it should go ahead.

cheers

Does anyone know when cabinet 3 on Nine Mile Ride between Kiln Ride and Kiln Ride Extension is due to be upgraded? Will it be this year?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Does anyone know when cabinet 3 on Nine Mile Ride between Kiln Ride and Kiln Ride Extension is due to be upgraded? Will it be this year?

According to roadworks.org this cab should already be in progress and is set to finish on the 18th.

I will be upgrading just as soon as this is available but I'm wondering if everyone will get an increase in speed once these new cabinets are enabled even if they do not upgrade to infinity. Is the existing copper route to the exchange maintained alongside the fibre route or is it replaced and they just throttle the bandwidth for lines that are not on infinity.

There is some BT work scheduled next week on Barkham Ride (see below). NGA I believe stands for 'next generation access' presumably to provide FTTC infrastructure. Any ideas whether this will mean that the cabinet on Barkham Ride/Carolina Place (No 12) will be activated at the end of scheduled work i.e. 29th May?

Barkham Ride, Finchampstead, Wokingham
Works start 16 May 2012 end 29 May 2012
Medium impact, delays possible
Queries should be addressed to BT reference BC005WP00100500069257802
Current status Planned work about to start
Works location (NGA related works) OPPOSITE 75 BARKHAM RIDE
Traffic lights, etc. None/signing only

Infinity is just the BT retail product, their are many isps that offer services on the FTTC platform.

People will have to sign up for a FTTC service to see the increase in speeds, the copper lines back to the exchange are kept to continue phone and asdl services.

I am curious...

How are the tails from my property changed during this upgrade? Of course today my cooper goes directly to the existing cab and then back via (i assume a cooper backhaul cable) to the exchange. Once the new FTTC cab is installed, due they do some kind of doubling up? i.e. all properties are connected to both old cab and FTTC cab?

Just interested if anyone knows.

Cheers

Taken from Robertos site

They run optical fibre from the exchange to the new cabinet then link individual lines from the old cabinet to the new one and back to get VDSL2 onto the copper connection to the premises. The PSTN phone connection continues to operate over the pre-existing cable from the old cabinet to the exchange. It does not get put onto the fibre connection.

Only once you have placed a order will the copper line in the cab be connected to the fibre cab to enable vdsl2.

Thanks for that!

If the phone service continues over the existing copper backhaul, does this mean they have a frequency splitter also in the cabs, one frequency range for POTS and the other for the copper tail VDSL2?

Sounds like the fibre service activation is still a fair amount of work and not just a simple admin task from an operations console.

I am just waiting to sign up as soon as BT or other service providers hit the go button.

I presume at some next distant point in the future these cabs will also be able to extend fibre to the premise? For this I presume they have to push/pull a fibre tail along existing ducting to the house. Or does it also require a "significant" cab upgrade?

Cheers

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Sounds like the fibre service activation is still a fair amount of work and not just a simple admin task from an operations console.

I am just waiting to sign up as soon as BT or other service providers hit the go button.

I presume at some next distant point in the future these cabs will also be able to extend fibre to the premise? For this I presume they have to push/pull a fibre tail along existing ducting to the house. Or does it also require a "significant" cab upgrade?

The provision of FTTC is an engineer install and even when in future they provide a "wires only" service there will still be work for BT OR to connect your line from the voice CAB to the FTTC CAB. They do not provide the FTTC connections in the same numbers as the voice CAB on the assumption that they would never get 100% take up.

Since the FTTC CAB is "simply" moving the DSLAM from the exchange to the street CAB and using VDSL instead of ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+ it isnt really suitable for providing a node to provide fibre to the premises for all lines as the technology is different.

Hi,
Am I being particularly naive, but I assumed I would get the increased broadband speed automatically when the new cabinets became operative. Reading some of the comments here, it seems that I will have to upgrade to a fibre contract and presumably pay a higher fee. If I don't want to pay more, I assume I will remain on the existing very slow internet.
Can anyone confirm that this is the situation.
Thanks,
Lawrie

Yes, that's correct.

If you want to upgrade to an FTTC service you will have to order it through ISP of choice, and pay accordingly.

I'm not sure why you presumed it would be an automatic upgrade ? The company who installing this product will need to recoup their costs somehow.

Saw the post re Councillor Gore's email and felt relieved. However, spoke to a BT Openreach engineer working on the Mornington/ Jerrymoor Hill underground junction yesterday - he seemed to feel Cab 11 has not been planned in.

Does anyone have an updated view on this (Cabinet 11 on McCarthy Way/ Nash Grove)?

That's worrying.

I have emailed Councillor Gore asking him to clarify the situation. Will post back when I get a response.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

That's worrying.

I have emailed Councillor Gore asking him to clarify the situation. Will post back when I get a response.

But both the cabs on that end of nashgrove have been replaced last week. There's a new one on Elgarth and and new one on McCarthy way.

Really!?

I haven't noticed any new cabinets on McCarthy Way. I drove past cab 11 today and didn't see a new cabinet in it's vicinity.

There isn't one, was working in there the other day, no copper tail, no nuttin'.

The one just round the corner looks promising.

The Elgarth one replaces Cab 15, I believe.

Drove past Cab 11 this morning and it is definitely still the old one so not sure what the poster is referring to. Look forward to the response from the elusive Councillor Gore

I couldn't see where to post without quoting but I live off off Carolina Place so cab 12 just did the checker and it says its available NOW

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I couldn't see where to post without quoting but I live off off Carolina Place so cab 12 just did the checker and it says its available NOW

Can 12 was in place months before any of the others, however when I went up to it on Tuesday there was no noise coming from it. I have confirmed from the address & postcode that it is live however!

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

The Elgarth one replaces Cab 15, I believe.

Drove past Cab 11 this morning and it is definitely still the old one so not sure what the poster is referring to. Look forward to the response from the elusive Councillor Gore

Further to the email from Councillor Gore, I have since had a letter from Dr Phillip Lee who said that Cab 11 will be upgraded but will not be accepting orders until the end of September.

Cheers

Thank you. I guess better late than never!

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I couldn't see where to post without quoting but I live off off Carolina Place so cab 12 just did the checker and it says its available NOW

Can 12 was in place months before any of the others, however when I went up to it on Tuesday there was no noise coming from it. I have confirmed from the address & postcode that it is live however!

Hmm, I suspect there's a problem with the site as when you put in a phone number there's suddenly no fibre. On roadworks.org there's BT planned works opposite 50 Barkham Ride next to fibre cab 12 - perhaps plumbing in power?

I have successfully ordered BT Infinity and due to be installed on the 14th June postcode RG404PB

I live close to CAB 12 and called BT this morning. They said fibre wasn't as yet available. Assuming you must be on a different CAB?

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I live close to CAB 12 and called BT this morning. They said fibre wasn't as yet available. Assuming you must be on a different CAB?

Nope as far i believe its always been CAB 12. i first phoned after doing online checker and they said i could get it i had to pause my order go to work then the next lady said i couldnt so after the 6th time of getting her to check she said "o hang on i can see on 1 system it says yes on the other no i will try and process it for you. Yes sir the order will go through and i can confirm download of 66.3mb and upload 20mb

Yes sir the order will go through and i can confirm download of 66.3mb and upload 20mb

Don't shout too loud, they will have you stoned as a practiser of witchcraft for those speeds !

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes sir the order will go through and i can confirm download of 66.3mb and upload 20mb

Don't shout too loud, they will have you stoned as a practiser of witchcraft for those speeds !

That might be true But it will be a lot faster than 0.5mb

What BT number did you call on for placing the order?

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes sir the order will go through and i can confirm download of 66.3mb and upload 20mb

Don't shout too loud, they will have you stoned as a practiser of witchcraft for those speeds !

Glad that you got the result you were looking for! The 450 households on Cabinet 11 wait with baited breath for the time they can consistently get above 1mbs :-0. Where is Branson when you need him ....? oh! doing the tele ads.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Yes sir the order will go through and i can confirm download of 66.3mb and upload 20mb

Don't shout too loud, they will have you stoned as a practiser of witchcraft for those speeds !

Glad that you got the result you were looking for! The 450 households on Cabinet 11 wait with baited breath for the time they can consistently get above 1mbs :-0. Where is Branson when you need him ....? oh! doing the tele ads.

It is awful how we've all had to wait this long but hopefully not much longer. Fingers crossed!

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

There isn't one, was working in there the other day, no copper tail, no nuttin'.

The one just round the corner looks promising.

It looks new but what do I know? It is certainly a newer cabinet than the one you can see on street view.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

What BT number did you call on for placing the order?

Well first of all I used one which came up online when the checkout failed. I then had to put that order on hold to go to work so she provided me with this number 0800 800 030 then option 4 but I think this again is a very general number.

Cab3 is still not intsalled opposite Belmont stores. Any idea when this one will be done. infinity checker still says june 30th for me (Heath Ride).

They did do some work in May to install a duct between the two BT underground boxes either side of the road. but no inifinty cab yet

thanks

New shell on 11, but no FTTC line plant in the vicinity.

Does the FTTC line require roadworks? Also why would they put the new shell on and not put the FTTC line in as well?

Proably when the area was surveyed by Openreach they added a number of cabinets to be re-shelled proably because of age/rust etc.

As to why they dont install a FTTC cab at the same time, proably either different set of contractors or their not scheduled to install the FTTC cab their yet, if its planned.

In reply to a post by ccxo:

Proably when the area was surveyed by Openreach they added a number of cabinets to be re-shelled proably because of age/rust etc.

As to why they dont install a FTTC cab at the same time, proably either different set of contractors or their not scheduled to install the FTTC cab their yet, if its planned.

Does anyone have any info on whether NGA cab link for Cab 11 has actually been re-planned into Phase 8a?

Best way of finding out would be to contact the CEO of BT office, as they will know or if you can find any workmen installing cabs in the area.

Cabs get re shelled so they can fit in the new tie cables between the old cab and the new FTTC cab.

#ccxo. thank you. will try cceo@bt if I see no sign of construction by mid July. The council has only just got the location issue sorted (thanks to Councillor Stanton, the only responsive one!).

if it re planned it will need to go back to permission so suggest you speak to locat planning team to see if it resited lcation has come back n for approval

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if it re planned it will need to go back to permission so suggest you speak to locat planning team to see if it resited lcation has come back n for approval

do you ahve any contacts please?

I see some lucky people are ordering infinity. Any idea when RG40 4JA in nine Mile Ride should get BT infinity

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I see some lucky people are ordering infinity. Any idea when RG40 4JA in nine Mile Ride should get BT infinity

Infinity is just BT retails name for Openreach's GEA FTTC service, their are many other isps that offer FTTC packages such as Sky, Talk Talk, Asdl24, Plus Net, Zen, Xilo etc

Sorry to piggy-back. My elderly inlaws are on Nine Mile Ride almost equidistant inbetween Range Road and Sandhurst Road (RG40 3NH). The BT checker says end of June and even quotes expected speeds (34.2Mb download 5.9Mb upload). Do you know which cabinet they are likely to be connected to and the status of the work? Many thanks.

Ian

In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

You *should* be syncing better than the original poster, as their line will be longer than yours. I guess you've tried all the usual stuff, in the test socket ? Different router, etc ?

I found the choice of ADSL router makes a difference. I switched my inlaws to Orange and the free router they supplied was up and down like a yoyo. Back the original Belkin router they had and the connection was stable - if not at all fast.

FTTC can't come soon enough!

Ian

The CAB number is an easy one that I can answer, if you check this post is the original one you started back in February last year!! At the time Zarjaz suggested it should be CAB 3 (Post number 4, back on page 1).

In terms of timing, if I understand from what everybody else has been saying so far - the date from BT is as good as any, they've made one CAB live so far and are (according to roadworks.org) currently working in the area this week.

So it should be a matter of weeks rather than months - but that's only based on my observations rather than hard facts. Obviously, if anybody else has any more info then please do chip in. Especially if you have info about CAB 9

OK, thanks - the consensus wasn't 100% that it was CAB 3, which is quite a distance from my inlaws' place, so I was wondering if there had been an update. I think there is a cabinet where Sandhurst Road crosses NIne Mile Ride, which is much closer, but I am not sure. If, as I think you said, no work has yet been done on CAB 3 then maybe the end of June indicator for my inlaws means they are connected to a different cabinet? (He says optimistically!).

Ian

The Post Code to PCP spreadsheet from last year has all of RG40 3NH on PCP 3, it won't have moved!

The uplift is given as 25.58 so the speed increase should be "significant".

What does the BT ADSL Checker say the estimated speed will be for their telephone?

It suggests 1Mb but they rarely get close to 0.5Mb (down) and some ADSL modems won't even sync reliably.

But 10Mb down and, say 4Mb up, would be a gigantic improvement on what they have now.

Ian

Not sure Sky will provide service off of Eversley, they have no Easynet back haul at that exchange.

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It suggests 1Mb but they rarely get close to 0.5Mb (down) and some ADSL modems won't even sync reliably.

But 10Mb down and, say 4Mb up, would be a gigantic improvement on what they have now.

Ian

The checker should give FTTC details - date of go-live (probably 30th June like lots of other people, changing to 30th September if not live in June) and an estimate of the speed expected from FTTC.

It does mention FTTC on the checker?

I should have added that to the list- im suprised sky has not increased its exchange llu presence further, only seems to be TT lately.

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I have successfully ordered BT Infinity and due to be installed on the 14th June postcode RG404PB

Any update? Did this go ahead?

I had understood from the Samknows site, that the Eversley exhange did have a sky/easynet presence (http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/THEV).

Am I misreading that?

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In reply to a post by ifb_online:

It suggests 1Mb but they rarely get close to 0.5Mb (down) and some ADSL modems won't even sync reliably.

But 10Mb down and, say 4Mb up, would be a gigantic improvement on what they have now.

Ian

The checker should give FTTC details - date of go-live (probably 30th June like lots of other people, changing to 30th September if not live in June) and an estimate of the speed expected from FTTC.

It does mention FTTC on the checker?

Yes the checker says available end of June and estimates likely speed.

Ian

It should be correct, i believe what Zarjaz was saying that to order a FTTC service from sky their needs to be easynet llu in the exchange for the backhaul, which Eversley has.

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#ccxo. thank you. will try cceo@bt if I see no sign of construction by mid July. The council has only just got the location issue sorted (thanks to Councillor Stanton, the only responsive one!).

Hello All. Just an update on this item to all those connected to Cab 11. Openreach has filed for NGA work on 26th June for approx a week. Hopefully this means that the NGA cab will be put up soon, though one never knows! So maybe, perhaps, possibly a decent line speed will be possible!

Hi there,

I'm about to move to RG40 4LT. Can you give me a heads up on that postcode?

Thanks

Darren

Hi your postcode comes back with this

THEV EVERSLEY RG404LT {THEV}{P4} 0 100% 8.38 8a Yes FTTC


100% of the lines on that postcode are connected to cabinet 4 and it is planned to have FTTC.

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It should be correct, i believe what Zarjaz was saying that to order a FTTC service from sky their needs to be easynet llu in the exchange for the backhaul, which Eversley has.

hello. please could you clarify? i thought copper backhaul from cabinet to exchange was being retained so unless one moved to BT Infinity OR an LLU ISP subscribed to the Openreach Fibre cab to exchange backhaul, a subscriber would not see change to their speeds. so no change unless Sky paid the appropriate licencing fees for fibre backhaul. have i misunderstood?

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In reply to a post by ccxo:

It should be correct, i believe what Zarjaz was saying that to order a FTTC service from sky their needs to be easynet llu in the exchange for the backhaul, which Eversley has.

hello. please could you clarify? i thought copper backhaul from cabinet to exchange was being retained so unless one moved to BT Infinity OR an LLU ISP subscribed to the Openreach Fibre cab to exchange backhaul, a subscriber would not see change to their speeds. so no change unless Sky paid the appropriate licencing fees for fibre backhaul. have i misunderstood?

Not quite right.

The copper line to the exchange is retained and can be used for ADSL as at present.

If FTTC is installed on a CAB then fibre is installed from the exchange to the CAB and VDSL2 is offered from the CAB to the customer over the existing copper BUT ONLY IF AN APPROPRIATE PRODUCT IS ORDERED FROM AN ISP.

At the exchange the data from the fibre is handed over to the various ISPs for their backhaul (in practice BT Wholesale, SKY or TalkTalk.

The OpenReach product - GEA - does this for all FTTC ISPs up to the exchange, the ISP has the option to unbundle from there.

So SKY needs their backhaul from the exchange to take their FTTC traffic from OR GEA and transmit it over their network - additional kit in the exchange and increased bandwidth over the backhaul. SKY dont buy their backhaul from BT and at present all FTTC providers use OR GEA from the customer to the exchange.

Thank you for explaining greenglide. Very helpful in dialogue with Sky!

Fitted one at RG40 4PG today, off of cab 12, fifth connection in the cab, and big Nige turned up to fit the sixth whilst I was there.

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In reply to a post by Anonymous:

In reply to a post by ccxo:

It should be correct, i believe what Zarjaz was saying that to order a FTTC service from sky their needs to be easynet llu in the exchange for the backhaul, which Eversley has.

hello. please could you clarify? i thought copper backhaul from cabinet to exchange was being retained so unless one moved to BT Infinity OR an LLU ISP subscribed to the Openreach Fibre cab to exchange backhaul, a subscriber would not see change to their speeds. so no change unless Sky paid the appropriate licencing fees for fibre backhaul. have i misunderstood?

Not quite right.

The copper line to the exchange is retained and can be used for ADSL as at present.

If FTTC is installed on a CAB then fibre is installed from the exchange to the CAB and VDSL2 is offered from the CAB to the customer over the existing copper BUT ONLY IF AN APPROPRIATE PRODUCT IS ORDERED FROM AN ISP.

At the exchange the data from the fibre is handed over to the various ISPs for their backhaul (in practice BT Wholesale, SKY or TalkTalk.

The OpenReach product - GEA - does this for all FTTC ISPs up to the exchange, the ISP has the option to unbundle from there.

So SKY needs their backhaul from the exchange to take their FTTC traffic from OR GEA and transmit it over their network - additional kit in the exchange and increased bandwidth over the backhaul. SKY dont buy their backhaul from BT and at present all FTTC providers use OR GEA from the customer to the exchange.

hello

I am slightly confused, in plain english and for those that dont know what backhaul is... do you happen to know if Sky will be providing FTTC services from cabinet 15 THEV (RG40 4YE)?

I am a Sky broadband customer and if they will not be then I will obviously be moving back to BT (which I don't want to do as I prefer being with sky)

many thanks

Guy

Openreach have/will provided a fibre fed DSLAM cabinet to allow service providers, ie BT Retail, Sky, Talk talk, Plusnet,Zen, etc,etc, to offer an FTTC service to their customers.

So, if you were to take up one of these services, your 'internet' would be over the copper pair back to the street cabinet, from there to the fibre fed DSLAM cabinet back to the 'head end' in the exchange. (To add confusion, the fibre may not go back to the exchange the voice service does.) From the head end, it has a path through to the chosen internet service provider, this path (very roughly speaking) is the back haul. Currently, for a high percentage of FTTC products, this back haul is provided by BT Wholesale.
However,in some cases, some ISP's use their own backhaul from the head end to themselves, notably Talk talk and Sky.
It would appear that Sky, seem to only provide FTTC service where the exchange has an existing LLU service for them, Easynet.
As far as I am aware, there is no Easynet equipment in Eversley exchange, so would be surprised if they do offer FTTC service.
The most obvious test of this, since you say you are their customer, pick up your phone and dial 17070. If the voice that answers is an irritatingly chirpy "Hi I'm Zoe ......" then you are on a full Sky LLU, and I apologuise for any confusion, but I suspect, that at your exchange, Sky are reselling BT Wholesale products.

There are plenty of non-BT FTTC providers, so maybe your choice isn't as limited as you think.

I'm sure some one more eloquent will happen along shortly. Who knows, maybe see you over there !

I have been keenly tracking the dates on BT's infinity checker during the lasr few weeks. Last week, the checker showed that infinity will be available in RG40 4PQ (Carloina place) by June 15 (97% CAB 12). Now its either saying 30th June or that infinity is not available on certain addresses. Any Idea as to whats going on?

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Openreach have/will provided a fibre fed DSLAM cabinet to allow service providers, ie BT Retail, Sky, Talk talk, Plusnet,Zen, etc,etc, to offer an FTTC service to their customers.

So, if you were to take up one of these services, your 'internet' would be over the copper pair back to the street cabinet, from there to the fibre fed DSLAM cabinet back to the 'head end' in the exchange. (To add confusion, the fibre may not go back to the exchange the voice service does.) From the head end, it has a path through to the chosen internet service provider, this path (very roughly speaking) is the back haul. Currently, for a high percentage of FTTC products, this back haul is provided by BT Wholesale.
However,in some cases, some ISP's use their own backhaul from the head end to themselves, notably Talk talk and Sky.
It would appear that Sky, seem to only provide FTTC service where the exchange has an existing LLU service for them, Easynet.
As far as I am aware, there is no Easynet equipment in Eversley exchange, so would be surprised if they do offer FTTC service.
The most obvious test of this, since you say you are their customer, pick up your phone and dial 17070. If the voice that answers is an irritatingly chirpy "Hi I'm Zoe ......" then you are on a full Sky LLU, and I apologuise for any confusion, but I suspect, that at your exchange, Sky are reselling BT Wholesale products.

There are plenty of non-BT FTTC providers, so maybe your choice isn't as limited as you think.

I'm sure some one more eloquent will happen along shortly. Who knows, maybe see you over there !

erm... while I am not a complete noob to the world of interwebs I kinda just wanted to know if Sky would be providing fibre or if I would have to change provider.

Sky are listed on the THEV exchange as an LLU operator on SamKnows... I am unable to test the 17070 to Zoe theory as I don't even have a home phone plugged in... I only use my line for broadband.

Thanks for your reply though Zarjaz.

I have Sky talk and got Zoe on 17070.

... and you are off of Eversley exchange ?

Yes - RG40 4ET cab 12.

well this sounds very positive.. thank you both!

Is there any news on CAB 3 for RG40 3NH?

Ian

been on the phone for 20 mins today to Sky Fibre

the information I got is that Openreach are saying that the exchange is Fibre enabled, however that the Sky part of the Fibre allocation is FULL

I questioned this and it appears that the allocation is a shared allocation, so I am just presuming that Sky have not been allocated anything and that BT are taking all the first customers.

The unfortunate thing is that they are unable to provide a RFS date to Sky customers.. so Sky customers such as myself are left wondering whether we should move providers, or not?

The advice I was given was to fill in this form Register Interest for Sky Fibre and you will then get priority when Sky do have an allocation on the exchange.

not exactly an ideal situation for anyone not with BT

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been on the phone for 20 mins today to Sky Fibre

the information I got is that Openreach are saying that the exchange is Fibre enabled, however that the Sky part of the Fibre allocation is FULL

I questioned this and it appears that the allocation is a shared allocation, so I am just presuming that Sky have not been allocated anything and that BT are taking all the first customers.

The unfortunate thing is that they are unable to provide a RFS date to Sky customers.. so Sky customers such as myself are left wondering whether we should move providers, or not?

The advice I was given was to fill in this form Register Interest for Sky Fibre and you will then get priority when Sky do have an allocation on the exchange.

not exactly an ideal situation for anyone not with BT

The only "SKY part of the fibre allocation" on the exchange is the SKY backhaul from the exchange (presumably via the MSAN).

Possibilities are that their is insufficient bandwidth provided by SKY to support FTTC, there is no space for additional connection of additional voice lines to the SKY kit (a SKY pre-requisite for any new BB connection).

If the head end of the FTTC is at a different exchange to the voice (or this exchange is acting as head end for FTTC on others) this will cause complications with the SKY "one to one" voice and BB connections and may impose a huge backhaul requirement on a single exchange.

The other alternative may be that SKY don't know what they are talking about (not unusual!) or that the FTTC CAB (for that line, not the whole exchange) is full which would apply equally for all suppliers including BT Retail with their Infinity product.

My installation to Bt Infinity went as planned last Thursday. Its been faultless so far topping at 70mb/sec. I managed to download a HD film in less time it used to download a music album.

or that the FTTC CAB (for that line, not the whole exchange) is full which would apply equally for all suppliers including BT Retail with their Infinity product.

The few cabs that are taking orders, have only been doing so for a couple of weeks, I'm sure they haven't maxed out an FTTC cab already. Only place I know of where a second DSLAM cab is on the cards, is one of the original bad-boy not spots. Waltham St.Laurence near Twyford.

If the head end of the FTTC is at a different exchange to the voice (or this exchange is acting as head end for FTTC on others) this will cause complications with the SKY "one to one" voice and BB connections and may impose a huge backhaul requirement on a single exchange.

Ah, now I do recall one of the fibre bods saying that this exchange's fibre cabs go back to Crowthorne, so maybe that's the answer.

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Ah, now I do recall one of the fibre bods saying that this exchange's fibre cabs go back to Crowthorne, so maybe that's the answer.

Does this mean, that their would be no capacity left any of the remaining cabs that haven't yet started accepting orders and hence never will ;-(

Do you know which others are accepting orders, and other thanaround cab 3, doesn't appear that openreach have any work going on/planned in the area. Would this imply the work is now complete for the remaining cabs, and subject to this capacity issue should be live any day now? (wink, wink... any idea which day!)

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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:

Ah, now I do recall one of the fibre bods saying that this exchange's fibre cabs go back to Crowthorne, so maybe that's the answer.

Does this mean, that their would be no capacity left any of the remaining cabs that haven't yet started accepting orders and hence never will ;-(

Do you know which others are accepting orders, and other thanaround cab 3, doesn't appear that openreach have any work going on/planned in the area. Would this imply the work is now complete for the remaining cabs, and subject to this capacity issue should be live any day now? (wink, wink... any idea which day!)

Presumably only SKY would know when they will have enough backhaul or MSAN ports to support FTTC.

Nowt to do with BT!

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My installation to Bt Infinity went as planned last Thursday. Its been faultless so far topping at 70mb/sec. I managed to download a HD film in less time it used to download a music album.

I am puzzled as to why some people have been able to order on CAB 12, like yourself, but others like myself (RG40 4ET) cannot? Are BT trialling the fibre to a limited set of users?

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I am puzzled as to why some people have been able to order on CAB 12, like yourself, but others like myself (RG40 4ET) cannot? Are BT trialling the fibre to a limited set of users?

Are you certain that you are on Cab 12? 93% of RG40 4ET are on Cab 10.

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In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I am puzzled as to why some people have been able to order on CAB 12, like yourself, but others like myself (RG40 4ET) cannot? Are BT trialling the fibre to a limited set of users?

Are you certain that you are on Cab 12? 93% of RG40 4ET are on Cab 10.

You're absolutely right. I misread the PCP_to_postcode spreadsheet andI thought it was the other way round as PCP 12 looks ancient.

Just spotted this: http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/bracknell/articl...

Odds on that we find most of the remaining cabs going live the day before...

Just like a soap opera, you can write the script yourself.

I'm on Cabinet 3 (RG40 3QJ) and it looks like availability has now changed from June 30 to September 30. How frustrating!

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I'm on Cabinet 3 (RG40 3QJ) and it looks like availability has now changed from June 30 to September 30. How frustrating!

Mine has also changed to September this morning!!!! RG404YD

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Just spotted this: http://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/bracknell/articl...

Odds on that we find most of the remaining cabs going live the day before...

Just like a soap opera, you can write the script yourself.

In the light of the new date I think I'll be attending this metting.

And yet if check at http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/, it suggests that Orders are being accepted similar with the PDF file on that same page.

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And yet if check at http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/, it suggests that Orders are being accepted similar with the PDF file on that same page.

Unfortunately, the BT infinity checker now says September 2012
How can this be?

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I spoke to a guy on the BT support chat thing on their website and the guy said it had been changed to 30th Sept but didn't know why. He also seemed to think that we were getting FTTP (Cab 11) since he told me it was due to the fact that they needed to change the cables between the house and the exchange, and he was pretty useless. Put me through to a woman on the sales team and she said it was still down for 30th June 2012 and to phone back on the 30th June to place an order (i even made her check twice that it was definitely down for 30th June on her system). BT Wholesale (https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html) however gives me a date of 30th Sept 2012 so i'm betting i'll phone up on the 30th June and she'll tell me it's not available until Sept.

Another thing, i noticed theres supposed to be some roadworks starting today down by cabinet 11 (roadworks.org) but i didn't see anything there when i drove past this morning so i don't know if those roadworks have been postponed due to the new 30th Sept date?

Also with regards to the exchange being listed as accepting orders, i think this is because some of the cabinets are already live like the one up on Carolina.

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He also seemed to think that we were getting FTTP (Cab 11) since he told me it was due to the fact that they needed to change the cables between the house and the exchange

Sorry, meant cables between the house and the cabinet.

June 30th and September 30th are both placeholding dates, openreach work in 3 month slots, if the cabinets/exchange are not ready then they slip into the next holding slot.

Usually cabinets will either go live before the end date or the first weeks into the next holding slot, i suggest keep checking the BT asdl wholesale checker now and then over the next few weeks as you will likely see your cab go live and accpet orders.

Edited by ccxo (Tue 26-Jun-12 17:37:24)

I'm at RG40 4PB and placed an order for BT infinity last week through the website. I had a phone call today from BT telling me that Infinity wasn't yet available in my area so I told them to cancel the order. They couldn't explain why I was able to order it last week. At the time of my order the infinity site said it was available, I checked again today and it now says register your interest.

I am 99% sure that you have been given dis-information.
If cab 11 gets FTTC, then there will be no change to the existing network between the cabinet and the houses.
I would be HUGELY surprised if you were getting FTTP. This is only being rolled out (in this area) to brownfield sites. This would be due, in part, to the guaranteed duct to each premises. I know for sure that the area around Jerrymoor is direct in ground lead ins.

That postcode gives Maryland, or Oregon Walk maybe ??

That, and all the adjacent roads are off of cab 12, which is live and accepting orders. I have fitted two in Oregon Walk myself in the last two weeks.

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I am 99% sure that you have been given dis-information.
If cab 11 gets FTTC, then there will be no change to the existing network between the cabinet and the houses.
I would be HUGELY surprised if you were getting FTTP. This is only being rolled out (in this area) to brownfield sites. This would be due, in part, to the guaranteed duct to each premises. I know for sure that the area around Jerrymoor is direct in ground lead ins.

My point was that i know we most likely aren't getting FTTP but thats the reason he gave me for it being delayed (basically wasted my time and i got my answer within ~2 minutes of speaking to the sales team).
However i'm still slightly hopeful that i'll be able to order soon since her system said the 30th June but i'm thinking it's probably just not been updated since the date only changed this morning

You're right Zarjaz I'm in Maryland so why would they cancel my order?

God knows. There is at least one household with service down your road. Big Nige fitted it two weeks ago.

Have heard of several cases like yours, even had a punter collar me whilst parked up at the end of Carolina having just fitted a circuit. They had been told no.

A couple of options I'd suggest ...... try ringing and asking for FTTC rather than 'Infinity'

Try ordering through a different FTTC ISP

Email Ian.Livingstone@bt.com and ask him to explain why parts of his company are making your attempts to give them money so difficult.

We moved to F-Stead under the pretense that there would be high speed internet. Now, 1.2 years later, I'm still waiting. For claiming to be the "silicon valley" of England, its more like the toilet bowl of internet! Now, fortunately, we are moving to another country...this time, my spouse and I have agreed that the SLOWEST speed we will have is UNLIMITED USUAGE at 128 mb/s, not the 1.75mb I've been slogging through in this "silicon valley" It reminds me of America Online, when my speed used to be a whopping 28kb/s. Now i'm happy to get to 1 MEG..and all for the fantastically idiotic price of 45 quid a month...for 40Gig. lmfao! I shudder to think what British Trash I mean Telecom will r@pe the citizens for next? As for the 128 I will be paying..hmmm 25 Euro with unlimited usuage sounds just decadent. Good riddance

I'd suggest double checking your availability, just rechecked and it's changed to being available (CAB 9) for me. Had been listed as September when I checked at 8.00am today.

Ordered it all online, and appointment has been booked for early July.

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I'd suggest double checking your availability, just rechecked and it's changed to being available (CAB 9) for me. Had been listed as September when I checked at 8.00am today.

Ordered it all online, and appointment has been booked for early July.

No change for cab10

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In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I'd suggest double checking your availability, just rechecked and it's changed to being available (CAB 9) for me. Had been listed as September when I checked at 8.00am today.

Ordered it all online, and appointment has been booked for early July.

No change for cab10

Looks like Cab 9 and 12 are currently live. I'm sure it wont be long for 10 to go live!

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We moved to F-Stead under the pretense that there would be high speed internet. Now, 1.2 years later, I'm still waiting. For claiming to be the "silicon valley" of England, its more like the toilet bowl of internet! Now, fortunately, we are moving to another country...this time, my spouse and I have agreed that the SLOWEST speed we will have is UNLIMITED USUAGE at 128 mb/s, not the 1.75mb I've been slogging through in this "silicon valley" It reminds me of America Online, when my speed used to be a whopping 28kb/s. Now i'm happy to get to 1 MEG..and all for the fantastically idiotic price of 45 quid a month...for 40Gig. lmfao! I shudder to think what British Trash I mean Telecom will r@pe the citizens for next? As for the 128 I will be paying..hmmm 25 Euro with unlimited usuage sounds just decadent. Good riddance

Bye Bye.

I don't suppose anyone knows how accurate the roadworks.org website is? Says theres NGA works 26th Jun - 9th July on Cab 11, but haven't seen anything there or any changes around the area?

Re: Maryland

I check BT Infinity again today and guess what - it's available to order again so I spoke to BT and they reinstated my order.......I really wonder if they no what they are doing..?

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I don't suppose anyone knows how accurate the roadworks.org website is? Says theres NGA works 26th Jun - 9th July on Cab 11, but haven't seen anything there or any changes around the area?

Hi. I spoke to the Council. They said that the application has not been withdrawn and that sometimes the utility/ company pads out the time required and can start later. They are not allowed to go beyond without asking for an extension. They obviously could not give details if the work would actually be carried out. Unfortunately I have no contact in Openreach Ops or Planning to try to find out if they will actually put in the NGA cab on Nashgrove for connection to Cab 11. Would be great if one of the posters on the forum could give us deprived folks a heads up!

Although we are all watching Cab 11 for signs of work, does anyone know what the Cab is at the entrance to Elgarth Ave, there's no number on it and there are signs in the pavement that it hasn't been there long.

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Although we are all watching Cab 11 for signs of work, does anyone know what the Cab is at the entrance to Elgarth Ave, there's no number on it and there are signs in the pavement that it hasn't been there long.

It replaces Cab 15, I believe.

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In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I don't suppose anyone knows how accurate the roadworks.org website is? Says theres NGA works 26th Jun - 9th July on Cab 11, but haven't seen anything there or any changes around the area?

Hi. I spoke to the Council. They said that the application has not been withdrawn and that sometimes the utility/ company pads out the time required and can start later. They are not allowed to go beyond without asking for an extension. They obviously could not give details if the work would actually be carried out. Unfortunately I have no contact in Openreach Ops or Planning to try to find out if they will actually put in the NGA cab on Nashgrove for connection to Cab 11. Would be great if one of the posters on the forum could give us deprived folks a heads up!

Ah sounds good Lets hope it's done soonish then and we can get our super speeds!

I greatly appreciate your sharing your knowledge regarding the FTTC upgrading of the cabinets in Finchampstead. Would you be able to tell me to which cabinet I am connected? My post code is RG40 3NW - that is Johnson Drive off the Nine Mile Ride. Unfortunately, I am connected to Eversley Exchange although BT did put me onto a "clean" copper cable in 2008 after years of abysmal and unreliable service. As a consequence, I benefit from a reasonably consistent download speed of 2.5 Mbps and 0.4 MBPS upload while my surrounding neighbours are lucky if they achieve half of that... I rely on the internet, like so many here, and have been professionally crippled by the absence of Infinity. I am keen to initiate installation at the very first opportunity which I assume will be sooner rather than later. Availability is being shown as in the quarter to 30th September 2012 so I shall be seeking to place an order from this Sunday (1st July)... Many thanks.

I am 99% sure that you are served by Cab 3 Just down the road opposite where the shop was. If I get a chance I'll take a closer look tomorrow. Those are very good speeds for where you at present, they must have found a corker of an E-side.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

I greatly appreciate your sharing your knowledge regarding the FTTC upgrading of the cabinets in Finchampstead. Would you be able to tell me to which cabinet I am connected? My post code is RG40 3NW - that is Johnson Drive off the Nine Mile Ride. Unfortunately, I am connected to Eversley Exchange although BT did put me onto a "clean" copper cable in 2008 after years of abysmal and unreliable service. As a consequence, I benefit from a reasonably consistent download speed of 2.5 Mbps and 0.4 MBPS upload while my surrounding neighbours are lucky if they achieve half of that... I rely on the internet, like so many here, and have been professionally crippled by the absence of Infinity. I am keen to initiate installation at the very first opportunity which I assume will be sooner rather than later. Availability is being shown as in the quarter to 30th September 2012 so I shall be seeking to place an order from this Sunday (1st July)... Many thanks.

I've been trying to get my "D side" replaced for four years after numerous problems. How did you manage to convince BT to replace your cable?

Hi,
My postcode is RG40 4UA on the corner of McCarthy Way and Elgarth. I had always assumed that my box was cab 11 in McCarthy way, partly because I had never noticed cab 15 tucked away in NashGrove Lane.
As I can virtually see the new cab 15 in Elgarth from my house, I'm beginning to wonder if, in fact, I am on cab 15.
Does anyone know which of the two I am likely to be on.
Particular thanks to all the helpful contributors in this ongoing saga,
Lawrie

According to the PCP spreadsheet you'll be on Cab 11.

https://www.google.com/fusiontables/DataSource?snapi...

Many thanks Zarjaz. Cab 3 certainly looks to be the closest! Yes, I am not sure what they did but after two years of continual lost and interrupted service and appallingly poor speeds, I had made a high-level complaint and the trusty engineers put me onto what I believe (I may be mistaken) was a virgin copper line newly installed to cope with increased demand. In any event, whatever magic they deployed has given us reasonable reliability and consistency. I have always been on Option 3 tariff so changing to Infinity 2 when this becomes available will not cost me any more.

Initially, when I moved from Hollybush Ride to Johnson Drive in 2006 (downsizing driven by economic conditions!), despite having done all that I could in advance to ensure uninterrupted service and the previous owner having also had a BT Broadband account, BT were unable to resolve internal miscommunication between retail and wholesale and we had no broadband service for more than 3 months. This situation was eventually resolved by a high-level complaint (very effective) and the extraordinary intervention of Ofcom. Subsequently, when service proved to be appalling and we found we were frequently disconnected or service speeds dropped like a stone to speeds sometimes worse than a dial-up connection, we harangued BT for some resolution of the situation. Eventually, after a couple more years of misery, we felt obliged to make another high-level complaint and, within two or three months of engineers' visits to our home and the exchange and several experiments, we were given the service that we now enjoy. I think that BT just felt besieged by the continual barrage of complaints which were proving to be an uncomfortable statistic under the gaze of the regulator. So, after enjoying a much worse service than any of my neighbours for quite some time, I now have a much better service. However, I expect (and hope) that we will all be on a level playing field in the next quarter with blisteringly fast speeds (relatively speaking)...

Cab 15 only feeds the newish build estate further on on the right, as far as I know.

Apparently a representative from BT has agreed to come along to Phillip Lee's Question & Answer meeting on Thursday 5th of July at Finchampstead Memorial Hall at 7.30 to answer questions. Hopefully we will get more details then of how close the remaining boxes are to completion.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

Apparently a representative from BT has agreed to come along to Phillip Lee's Question & Answer meeting on Thursday 5th of July at Finchampstead Memorial Hall at 7.30 to answer questions. Hopefully we will get more details then of how close the remaining boxes are to completion.

Hello Folks. Anyone from the Cab 11 connected community going on to the meeting on the 5th?

I am on cab 11 and I am certainly aiming to be at the meeting on Thursday.
There doesn't seem to be any action at the cab this week. Just hoping that there will be some work done by the time of the meeting.
I did think of putting a length of copper wire from our house to box 15 a hundred yards away, but somehow don't think that would work !!!

Order just accepted for CAB9 service. Install planned for July 10th.

I live in Little Foxes off Foxcote (RG40 3PW) am I connected to cab 3 in Nine Mile Ride ? The upgrade appears to have been put back yet again to end of Sept 12. Any idea's why ?

Yes, cab 3, as for the delays, not a clue. I was told there had been some issues with blocked ducts, but whether this is the case on 3 or not, I don't know.

Any ideas about cab 10? (Gorse ride/barkam ride junction). The cabinet was put in at least a couple of months ago and I assumed it would go live the same time as cab 12. Is there a reason for the hold up?

Sorry, not a Scooby-Do.

One for Zarjaz I think. I have found my postcode (RG40 4NB) on the spreadsheet you uploaded and think I have decoded this to CAB 5 (opposite 7 Nine Mile Ride) where I have watched a brand new cabinet being installed. The Openreach Vans have reduced in number and I was looking forward to seeing access to infinity from 30 Jun 12 when suddenly the date jumped forward to 30 Sep 12. Any idea why this has occurred ? The spreadsheet indicates that this postcode is 'Deployed', uplift is 5.48 and Phase is 8a but the lines column varies from 40% to 100%. Obviously this detail means something and I was wondering if you could decode this for me.

Thanks

Lloyd

To quote ccxo

In reply to a post by ccxo:

June 30th and September 30th are both placeholding dates, openreach work in 3 month slots, if the cabinets/exchange are not ready then they slip into the next holding slot.

Usually cabinets will either go live before the end date or the first weeks into the next holding slot, i suggest keep checking the BT asdl wholesale checker now and then over the next few weeks as you will likely see your cab go live and accpet orders.

So it looks like you'll unfortunally just need to be patient and keep rechecking. I can speak in terms of CAB 9 which for a couple of days did show a Sept date before then accepting orders. Failing that you can always go along to the Meeting on Thursday and speak to BT direct.

OpenReach were playing on the other side of the road down by box 11 lunchtime according to my wife.

I have an interesting problem, I'm with Virgin and at the moment they are not going with FTTC, so I would stay on ADSL and see no improvement. So I'm going to elbow V and go with BT. Got myself a GMail account today to cover the change-over period but my main question is when to order BT. Should I order option 3 now and get the FTTC upgrade automatically or wait for when I can order Infinity and go straight to it.

In reply to a post by Anonymous:

OpenReach were playing on the other side of the road down by box 11 lunchtime according to my wife.

I have an interesting problem, I'm with Virgin and at the moment they are not going with FTTC, so I would stay on ADSL and see no improvement. So I'm going to elbow V and go with BT. Got myself a GMail account today to cover the change-over period but my main question is when to order BT. Should I order option 3 now and get the FTTC upgrade automatically or wait for when I can order Infinity and go straight to it.

Let's hope for BTs sake that it's done by the 5th (along with the other cabs) or it looks like half of Finchampstead will be at that meeting

Hi any idea where Church Lane fits in terms of cabs and rollouts etc RG40 4LP.

Also has anyone noticed their download taking a nose dive in the last couple of weeks. I used to run stable at about 1,850kbps until about the 20/21 Jun when something somewhere clearly got disconnected and service was lost for a few hours. Since then its never got back over 1,350KBps which is borderline on killing anything like suresignal/ i player etc making them virtually unusable. I've done the obvious stuff like rebooting hub etc

When is this Bt meeting?

cheers, Mike

In reply to a post by Johngrouplloyd:

One for Zarjaz I think. I have found my postcode (RG40 4NB) on the spreadsheet you uploaded and think I have decoded this to CAB 5 (opposite 7 Nine Mile Ride) where I have watched a brand new cabinet being installed. The Openreach Vans have reduced in number and I was looking forward to seeing access to infinity from 30 Jun 12 when suddenly the date jumped forward to 30 Sep 12. Any idea why this has occurred ? The spreadsheet indicates that this postcode is 'Deployed', uplift is 5.48 and Phase is 8a but the lines column varies from 40% to 100%. Obviously this detail means something and I was wondering if you could decode this for me.

Yes, RG40 4NB is served by cab 5. The percentage column means the percentage of lines on that postcode that are served by that cabinet. So you are definitely on that one.

If you look at the line for RG40 4XD, at 40%, there's another 60% of lines at that postcode on cabinet 9 a bit lower down. (Always use Find All if using Excel).

If you multiply your current speed by the uplift you will probably get a closer estimate than the other estimators.

"Deployed" really means "Scheduled". Another BT use of the wrong word. Perhaps the spreadsheet was originally for ones that really were up and running and they forgot to change the column heading when they started using it for forecasts.

The end of quarter dates are just placeholders to say it is expected but not guaranteed. If the quarter end is missed it automatically jumps 3 months. A few days before it goes live it usually does all sorts of things, even going blank sometimes, then comes up as live.

In reply to a post by mikec17:

Hi any idea where Church Lane fits in terms of cabs and rollouts etc RG40 4LP.

Also has anyone noticed their download taking a nose dive in the last couple of weeks. I used to run stable at about 1,850kbps until about the 20/21 Jun when something somewhere clearly got disconnected and service was lost for a few hours. Since then its never got back over 1,350KBps which is borderline on killing anything like suresignal/ i player etc making them virtually unusable. I've done the obvious stuff like rebooting hub etc

When is this Bt meeting?

cheers, Mike

I've noticed my downloads have dropped quite a bit too.. Was getting 0.74MB/s down on speedtests in May and now im on 0.48MB/s :/

In reply to a post by mikec17:

Hi any idea where Church Lane fits in terms of cabs and rollouts etc RG40 4LP.

Also has anyone noticed their download taking a nose dive in the last couple of weeks. I used to run stable at about 1,850kbps until about the 20/21 Jun when something somewhere clearly got disconnected and service was lost for a few hours. Since then its never got back over 1,350KBps which is borderline on killing anything like suresignal/ i player etc making them virtually unusable. I've done the obvious stuff like rebooting hub etc

When is this Bt meeting?

cheers, Mike

My downloads speeds have also slowed but this seemed to start 5-6 weeks ago. Was getting steady 1.4 Mbps but now down to 0.8. I have also noticed the service is even more unreliable than usual with much more regular dropouts. I'm on Cab 11 which, I am relieved to say, appears to be getting upgraded as of today - ground dug up on opposite side and a bunch of Open Reach signs. At last there is a sign of action - it really cannot come soon enough!!

Hmm, not 100% sure, as way of an apology, it's my normal patch to work.

I'd make an educated guess, and say you are off the cab opposite Finchampstead C of E primary. Cab 4, possibly, maybe 8.

Some more info on Cab 11 having just found this forum thread. Open Reach say the delay to Cab 11 was due to initial siting of the proposed broadband cabinet, this was planned for next to the path and not next to cab 11. The land cab 11 is on is privately owned and the owner objected, which was not unreasonable due to the siting. This has now been resolved and wayleave agreed. Big news today is work has started and the broadband cab is being sited on the opposite side of McCarthy way to cab 11. Looking at the concrete foundation, which doesn't look aligned correctly, it is a large cabinet and not the smaller type as located on Elgar Rd. As the road is marked out the subcontractors must be planning to dig a channel between the cabinets across McCarthy way tomorrow or Wed.

As a side note, I was talking to some Open Reach guys on Nile Mile Road 1-2 months ago and they were pulling fiber from Crowthorne exchange. They said all of Finch will be fed from Crowthorne as this is a larger exchange and they plan to take fiber to Eversley exchange for coms only and then on to Yateley.

So Cab 11 is happening..... and they might be taking orders soon...

@Mike. re BT "meeting". It is actually Dr Lee's (MP) Q&A meeting at 19:30 on Thursday 5th July at Finch Memorial Hall. BT have indicated they will send a rep there to answer questions.

Funny how all the stops have been pulled out just before the 5th.

An update on my previous post re leaving Virgin. I spoke to BT first, they said no problems ordering their £18 option 2 broadband for intial installation then ring to upgrade to Infinity when it becomes available, just pay the £25 connection fee and no other contractual issue. Virgin sent me a MAC within 3 hours so the BT order is in the pipe. Now to change all those email logons and notify everybody. I would advise anyone whose ISP does not support FTTC like Virgin to think seriously about changing to BT or other FTTC supplier before next door gets fast broadband and you remain stuck in the slow lane. The change for me actually worked out cheaper.

Get yourself ISP-independent email and never need t change email address again. It looks a damn sight better as well.

thanks Zarjaz and others, i'm not surprised to see I'm not the only one with downlink issues the question is will the original speeds be achieved or improved prior to the cabs being fully functional.
I was told in an off the cuff discussion that the cab opp Finchampstead COE was the one I would be fed from so question is whether the cab is now ready or when that might be?
Sorry to ask but somewhere it mentioned a schedule spreadsheet that I can't find. Al

I 'm working on the assumption that fibre to cab is one thing but copper to property is another or would there be some improvement on the copper in anycase aside of infinity once the cab is fibre connected?
Like someone else said It can't happen fast enough, then I can actually use some of my IT and Hifi investment properly

thanks

Mike

In reply to a post by mikec17:

Sorry to ask but somewhere it mentioned a schedule spreadsheet that I can't find.

There's no schedule with dates for cabinets. Only the phases, and there are no dates for phases. Though phases seem to fit roughly into each three months of BT's financial year of April to March. So perhaps we've just got into Phase 8b. Even then, the phase for a particular cabinet doesn't change even if it doesn't get done in the right one. Quite confusing .

I 'm working on the assumption that fibre to cab is one thing but copper to property is another

Correct.

... or would there be some improvement on the copper in anycase aside of infinity once the cab is fibre connected?

In most cases, no. In just a few, where there is a dodgy connection within the cabinet at the moment, that gets fixed, because those connections are replaced by new ones. See my description of FTTC setup.

Note, the important copper distance changes from the distance between you and the exchange to the distance from you to the cabinet, plus the copper distance from the cabinet to the FTTC cabinet.

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 03-Jul-12 09:21:10)

thanks Roberto that confirmed a lot of what I was thinking........

back in the hands of BT I guess

Looks like cab 10 went live in the early hours of this morning. RG40 4HP, install date the 19th!

The day before that council meeting, you really can't make it up......

I can confirm cab 10 is up and taking orders - RG40 4ES - July 17th install

Andy