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Standard User leedsit
(newbie) Fri 19-Apr-13 14:55:34
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Lack of Info is soooo frustrating


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Hi,

Currently on the Snodland exchange cab 10, even though our exchange is on Fibre, sadly our cab isnt. From the open reach checker, the output does not make sense with regards the stop sale dates???? Any other methods to find out if our cab is on a planned list ever?
Telephone Number 01634xxxxxx on Exchange SNODLAND is served by Cabinet 10


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Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 19-Apr-13 20:23:46
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First step is to email nga.enquiries@openreach.co.uk
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 19-Apr-13 20:45:27
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Just ignore the stop sale dates nothing to do with fibre at all

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Standard User leedsit
(newbie) Mon 22-Apr-13 09:06:04
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Thanks guys, Ill try the email address and see if they have any info.

Lee.
Standard User zom22
(newbie) Mon 22-Apr-13 09:24:07
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You will probably just get some bland reply back,
You are not the only one enquiring so they will have a stock reply to these sorts of enquiries.

It will most likely refer to the cab's non commercial viability, various legal, highways, logistical, whatever problems over siting a fibre cabinet nearby or getting the fibre/power supply out to the cabinet....and so on.

Like the rest of us you will probably have to wait until BDUK funds arrive which in part will be used to infill previously unconverted cabinets in enabled fibre areas.
Standard User leedsit
(newbie) Mon 22-Apr-13 10:05:01
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Hi,

To be honest Im kind of expecting a loosely worded it will happen when i happens email. Just a little frustrating having only 1.5 meg connection fraught with errors. Even more frustrating when you read posts of people saying they only have 55mb and they should be getting 60 on their connection wink

You mentioned BDUK?

Lee
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 22-Apr-13 10:55:55
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Most people get an answer very specific to them and their cabinet. For the majority, it lets them know, in no uncertain terms, where they stand.

Those whose cabinets are commercially unviable may feel that the answer is bland, and without specific details - which is probably because it doesn't tell them specifically why their cabinet isn't viable, just that it isn't.

Where BT has determined that the cabinet is unviable, you will remain in limbo - but not because this email contains insufficient details. It will be because the BDUK plans aren't sufficiently advanced to know whether your exchange will be covered and whether your cabinet will be covered, and whether your line will be covered.

I understand that being in this position will remain frustrating. But you *will* know that you are in this position. (*)

BDUK: Central governement has made a pot of money available to improve broadband in the UK. The central target is to get coverage of "superfast broadband" (>25Mbps) up from BT's commercial coverage (of 67%) to 90%. It has a fallback target to ensure that everyone else gets a minimum of 2Mbps.

The funds are allocated to (mostly) county councils, at level relative to how rural they are. The onus is on each council to determine how to go about the programme, what extra money to add to the central pot, and whether to apply for additional EU funds.

When the councils select a commercial partner (all signed contracts have so far plumped for BT), they move into a detailed planning phase. There are a lot of counties at this stage - only one county has advanced far enough to actually get cabinets on the ground.

Most counties seem to be going for a large percentage of FTTC coverage, but almost no county has yet gone far enough to be able to detail coverage down to individual cabinet level.

Hence, if you are on a cabinet that isn't viable in the commercial rollout, you won't yet know what the status is on the BDUK rollout, whatever county you are in.

First step is to enquire at Openreach. If they tell you that it is unviable, you go to the second step of finding out the BDUK status locally.

(*) - BT do muddy this slightly by occasionally changing the status of a cabinet. This happens, but sufficiently rarely for you to not consider it for now.
Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 22-Apr-13 11:13:06
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Snodland in Kent, right?

These probably apply:
Contract signed and TBB report.
Standard User leedsit
(newbie) Mon 22-Apr-13 11:56:05
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Looks encouraging..... and fingers crossed.

Thanks very much for the info and heads up, appreciated.

Lee.
Standard User leedsit
(learned) Thu 02-May-13 09:24:21
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Disappointing, standard issue email.

Our deployment is based on the commercial criteria for each cabinet and your cabinet 10 fails to meet the commercial criteria. This is because the cabinet is too small to provide a return on the investment based on the costs for the construction and on-going running costs of providing a new FTTC cabinet.

Where cabinets are not commercially viable Government funding is available to county and borough councils. It would be worth contacting them to enquire if they have discussed funding with BDUK to help upgrade cabinets such as yours.

Details are available at:-
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/bduk-broa...

You can also register your interest on the Openreach website at:-
http://www.openreachfibrebroadband.co.uk/where-and-w...
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