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Standard User Loading
(newbie) Mon 13-May-13 10:18:48
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Slow ADSL connection speeds


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My connection speed is really poor?
Using Netgear DGN1000 could that be the problem?


ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 2048 Kbps 448 Kbps
Line Attenuation 60.5 dB 31.5 dB
Noise Margin 9.2 dB 21.0 dB
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 13-May-13 10:23:32
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Re: Slow ADSL connection speeds


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the line attenuation of 60 dB at one point in history would have prevented you getting ADSL at all, so a shade under 2M isn't the end of the world.

The 9 dB noise margin is holding you down a bit - which ISP ? Different routers get on better with different lines and DSLAMs so you might get a few hundred k more with different kit but it's trial and error.

Were those stats in the test socket of the master ?

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User Loading
(newbie) Mon 13-May-13 10:50:09
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Re: Slow ADSL connection speeds


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They were in the master socket my isp ISP is EE
I've bought a tp link 8960n which will be coming soon would it be any better?
On kitz for my attenuation I should see speeds of 2.5mb but I only get 2mb


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 13-May-13 10:59:04
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Re: Slow ADSL connection speeds


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http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc/calculator.php?par...

Gives you a better idea, Kitz is estimating on attenuation alone. Once you factor in the 9dB target margin you can see via that link that it is costing you some speed.

When you say Master socket do you mean http://www.thinkbroadband.com/images/iplate/bt-maste...

What you need to do is remove the lower half to access the test socket, like in http://www.thinkbroadband.com/images/faq/faceplates/...

As for a different modem, only way to know is try it and see

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The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Loading
(newbie) Mon 13-May-13 11:16:34
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Re: Slow ADSL connection speeds


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I have removed the ring wire and in the test socket the stats were identical, in theory what would be the max connection speed. My master socket is the second across with just the bt logo, is there any was to lower the noise margin? Also out attenuation used to be 59db

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 13-May-13 13:51:32
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Re: Slow ADSL connection speeds


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Not that poor! Most you can gain is 0.5 Meg.

EE could be running you on a Fixed 2 Meg ADSL connection.

Haven't they sent you their BrightBox yet?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC - BQM
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 13-May-13 14:07:42
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In reply to a post by Loading:
They were in the master socket my isp ISP is EE
I've bought a tp link 8960n which will be coming soon would it be any better?
On kitz for my attenuation I should see speeds of 2.5mb but I only get 2mb


Trial and error - try it and see. No way to forecast really. 2-wire BT business hubs and old v3 Netgear 834 routers might do better on that length of line but it is a case of borrowing or ebaying routers to try them.

The margin may come down to 6 dB if it's stable enough for long enough, or you could try to get EE to reset it but I wouldn't hold my breath.

If it's 20CN MaxDSL you need to get to 2272 or above to get a 2000 IP profile.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User Loading
(newbie) Mon 13-May-13 14:40:07
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No should they, we asked and they sent us the same netgear dgn1000. 0.5mb is a lot when it's only 2mb. Also what do you mean by fixed 2mb
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 13-May-13 15:02:51
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In reply to a post by Loading:
0.5mb is a lot when it's only 2mb. Also what do you mean by fixed 2mb

fixed speed services 2272/288 on BT Wholesale do exist and some people are still on them, not you going by the upstream speed.

Not sure if there's any Orange LLU kit left in action or if they did the same.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 13-May-13 15:07:00
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Orange LLU kit - long dead.

But Orange has a habit of banding 21CN WBC connections, so with a 2 x 1024 figure for downstream there is a 25% chance I would suggest.

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