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Standard User mjl123
(learned) Fri 24-Jul-15 15:00:31
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Fastershire offering subsidised satellite


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After a lot of pestering and attending a "Broadband Summit" organised by our MP (http://www.alexchalk.com/news/chalk-hails-%E2%80%9Cl...) we've been offered subsidised satellite broadband by Fastershire so they can say they've met their target of everyone on at least 2Mbps by the end of this year.

We obviously wanted to be included in their FTTC rollout, but so far we haven't been due to various reasons, like Fastershire working with out of date data etc etc.

We're eligible under state aid guidelines, we're in an eligible intervention area and the cost-per-property is below their average cost-per-property, so hopefully if they review us again properly we'll be included.


We've not had any details of the subsidy for satellite yet, but does anyone know the likely deals we'll be offered, or how much per-property they budget?

The cost-per-property to put in FTTC is £177 (based on Openreach quote and only counting those who can't get Virgin). Given this is below their average cost-per-property and the fact satellite is a short-term solution How can they justify offering subsidised satellite, given they'll probably end up having to provide FTTC at some point in the future anyway?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 24-Jul-15 15:27:40
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Suspect the subsidy will simply cover the cost of the install and leave you picking from the various packages and the usage allowances.

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Standard User Fastman2
(committed) Sat 25-Jul-15 15:25:46
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they'll probably end up having to provide FTTC at some point in the future anyway?

commercial programme complete
BT Fastershire programme prob got lest that a year away to finish probably and fastershire have chosen a different route for next project

so cant seen any reason how or why you come to that conclusion


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Standard User mjl123
(learned) Mon 27-Jul-15 10:29:27
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In their 2014 -2018 strategy document they state:
"By the end of 2018 anyone in Herefordshire or Gloucestershire who needs NGA broadband will be able to access it"

There are enough people in the community who can demonstrate a need for super-fast broadband (some evidence of this at www.cheltenham151.com/media) therefore Fastershire have (indirectly) stated we'll have super-fast by end of 2018.

That's not to say I believe them though, as they stated on their website that everyone would get at least 2Mbps by the end of this year, but had no actual plans to include us in that until our MP got involved.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 27-Jul-15 11:25:21
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Could be superfast via a satellite connection of course, or 4G may suffice.

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Standard User mjl123
(learned) Mon 27-Jul-15 11:49:00
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Satellite frown

It's frustrating it's all about the download speed. Latency and usage limits are just as important in a modern broadband connection but seem to be ignored by Ofqual / the Government.

If everyone who is eligible signed up for it I think the subsidy required (even for just install costs) would be about the same as providing FTTC (at the cost given of £177 per property), especially if you factor in the admin side of it.

Even if it is cheaper for them to provide satellite as "NGA", it still seems a short sighted use of tax payer money.
Standard User Severidian
(newbie) Mon 27-Jul-15 12:36:43
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For connections above the USC Herefordshire is proposing...
http://www.passport2fastershire.com/
Standard User mjl123
(learned) Mon 27-Jul-15 13:39:31
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That looks promising for those in Herefordshire, sadly we're in Gloucestershire. Not sure why in a joint project one county is doing more than the other....
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(staff) Mon 27-Jul-15 13:41:16
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Looks promising - but suspect its just an exercise in rationing out the funding currently available.

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Standard User knighton
(regular) Mon 27-Jul-15 15:55:25
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I have been told by SuperfastStaffordshire that the Satellite vouchers will be a stopgap to provide the USC prior to 'other' technologies being implemented for my area when 'other' funding is available.

Having said that, I already have Satelitte BB but judging by its performance over the weekend, it will not even provide the USC!!
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