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Standard User rhum
(newbie) Sun 16-Jul-17 19:45:17
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Scotland - Exchange Activated Broadband... some help please


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Hi,

I'm hoping someone reading this can help.

My neighbour has arranged an appointment with the 'Rt Honourable' David Mundell MP to complain about the broadband service in this area. We are connected to the Marrburn exchange (SW Scotland) which provides an 'Exchange Activated' broadband output. I am aware that a lot of these exchanges have been upgraded in the recent past and I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction to get some stats regarding those upgraded recently and those that have been left with this outdated technology (512 Kbps)

Thank you in anticpation
Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 16-Jul-17 21:53:59
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BT Wholesale plan to have every exchange 21cn (up to 24mbps) enabled by the end of 2018.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Sun 16-Jul-17 22:27:30
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What exchange are you on and what are your current stats? There are probably already much faster services at your exchange, but most likely your line is so long it only supports 0.5Mbps.


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Standard User lee111s
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 16-Jul-17 22:32:25
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Some rural Scottish exchanges can still only offer fixed half meg service.
Standard User rhum
(newbie) Mon 17-Jul-17 00:07:22
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.... thanks for this info - I must admit I haven't heard of "21cn" can you post more info if possible please

Many thanks
Standard User rhum
(newbie) Mon 17-Jul-17 00:11:51
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ukhardy07 - sorry - thought it was clear ... I'm on Marrburn exchange ... only BT offer a service from this exchange - line length isn't an issue - the property 25 yards from the exchange also only gets 512!
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 17-Jul-17 00:31:49
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In reply to a post by lee111s:
Some rural Scottish exchanges can still only offer fixed half meg service.
I thought wrongly that every exchange had been upgraded to at least 8Mbps. Wow 512kbps as a maximum, that is shocking!
Standard User ian007jen
(experienced) Mon 17-Jul-17 08:36:40
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post more info if possible

ISP Review site has a news article

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2017/02/bt-upda...

Ian
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 17-Jul-17 10:02:21
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ADSL2+ should be on its eventually given previously announced plans, beyond that Openreach has area as just 'Exploring Solutions'

I've not been tracking the Exchange Activate conversions, as most of my tracking is the VDSL2 and FTTP roll-outs, with periodic ADSL2+ checks.

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Standard User gah789
(member) Tue 25-Jul-17 10:17:21
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The number of Exchange Activate exchanges in Scotland is very small outside the HIE area - less than 20 - and typically they serve 50-80 lines. I am on another one with 75 lines. SamKnows says that Marrburn has about 100 lines. Upgrading them to 21CN makes no sense because they are too small and their populations too dispersed. You may be 25m from the exchange but the average exchange distance is usually 2 km or more.

The R100 programme promises to upgrade everyone to 30 Mbps superfast by 2021. If you believe that, it is absurd to upgrade to ADSL2+ in 2018 as this can't provide 30 Mbps. Add to that the fact that EA exchanges don't have cabinets, so an FTTC upgrade requires both new cabinets and an exchange upgrade with a maximum of 20-30 properties that will benefit - in our case less than 20. Digital Scotland goes round in circles - promising FTTP to everyone without explaining how they pay for laying fibre to settlements 4-5 km from the exchange within the official cost limits. This is always 6-12 months away.

The R100 people know that they can't meet the target so the discrepancy between reality and political promises is acute. Don't rely upon anything that you are told - it is hard to distinguish between simple lies, excessive optimism and incompetence. In our case we run a community wireless network and have offered superfast service for nearly 2 years. You can send me a personal message for more information. The key lesson is that self-help is the only solution in the short term. In the longer term, who knows? The most likely outcome is that you will be offered satellite service.
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