i also feel it's an issue on another level and that is how long have we all been paying line rental over the years and in real honesty got sod all for it, we should have had a decent network ages ago and not get into this situation in the first place so i object to it on that basis.
Of course you can avenge yourself the inability and unwillingness of OR to invest into the area, but it hardly seems rational. I do understand if £240 is too much financially. In this case, I wonder if Hyperoptic could be persuaded to charging that in instalments over the initial contract period. They might, they are still a smallish company and not everything is carved in stone. Might be worth asking.
So would I if i knew it was going to take another 5 years but do you it will take that long? Have you made any contact with OpenReach to see what the deal is for you,
No, I only know what has happened in the past. From "in scope" it seems to take about a year to be live with FTTC, and I know we are still not even in scope. In some of the council documents I read about a plan to apply for grants in the second half of this year. If this happens and money would be available in Q1 2019, it would then be 2020 before anything happened.
I also know of a recent rearrangement in the area (post code SE16 5NZ), where the shiny new FTTC connection provides less than 30Mbps - probably not suitable for G.Fast upgrade. As the local cabling is aluminium, parts of it is even more rubbish than copper lines usually are. To wait until 2020 and finally see a 3 Mbps ADSL upgraded to 20 Mbps is a real possibility in this area.
Considering all this I do not think a solution available soon that would cost an installation fee but with reasonable monthly payments (£38 for 150/150 service is not bad considering G.Fast providers charge £55 for 150/30) is something we should shun just because it is not "free".
If you are happy with Relish, then by all means stay with Relish. They are planning to install new masts and it might help the congestion a bit. It is not a bad solution for the vast majority of users, if prime time streaming is not too important.
Rotherhithe has been in limbo since FTTC came into existence. OR have not done much of anything there, as the area suffers from many problems. Lack of cabinets, aluminium cabling, cables that meander around docks that once were. UK government decision to exclude London from any residential gap funding initiatives. Openreach community projects have been complicated to run in an area where most of the residents are short and mid term tenants. And because of the local cabling issue, a community project would need to span a relatively small area with few houses, making it more expensive than many are willing to consider.
Now Relish is installing more masts, which is good. Hyperoptic appears to be now also probing a new business model where they would be able to serve others than just the largest buildings. This may or may not attract an installation fee, but even if it is there, for many it will be a life saver. I do not want to stop anyone from "complaining" and making noise about the issue. I will continue to do so even though we managed to solve the problem for us with a bit of initiative.
But I do think that the spearhead of any complaints should be OR and council, not businesses who are actively working on a solution to a very complex and long-lasting problem. The "free" solution still appears to be a long way off for many, and many are willing to contribute financially if the right mechanism is there. It will not suit everyone, nothing probably will, but we should commend them for the attempt and initiative nevertheless, as it is more than anyone else is currently doing in the area.
Edited by hvis42 (Wed 31-Jan-18 10:26:34)