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Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Fri 24-Feb-12 17:39:19
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TalkTalk LLU..vivaciti + other resellers


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I'm looking to change my ISP. Currently with NewNet with 12GB/month allowance which is no longer enough for our needs (2 laptops, youtube, iplayer, smartphones etc).

Samknows says Talk Talk is enabled for my exchange (NDWES) http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NDWES . 21CN WBC is set for 31/07/12 and FTTC in 2012. However it seems from a bit of digging that only 14% of one cabinet for one postcode is to be FTTC - not my cabinet though but one corresponding to a newish estate.

I'm considering Vivaciti or perhaps other resellers of TalkTalk LLU. I don't want to get shoved on an Enta product so can Vivaciti confirm i can indeed get the variety LLU £19.80 deal. Will i still be stuck on upto 8Mbps though until 31/07/12?

Phone line is with post office where i want to leave it for now.

I'm not sure what speed i'm going to get but TBH anything comparable to current ADSL Max would be fine.

Current stats from Netgear DG834PN:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 7808 kbps 448 kbps
Line Attenuation 32.0 db 16.0 db
Noise Margin 6.0 db 22.0 db


Thanks

Andy

Edited by andrewdb (Fri 24-Feb-12 18:43:34)

Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Fri 24-Feb-12 18:48:36
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Re: TalkTalk LLU..vivaciti + other resellers


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Hi,
I can confirm if you order our Variety package, that is what we would provision for you.
Looking at your line stats you would be looking at a connection speed of around 15meg give or take.

Your phone line would remain unchanged, it is just the broadband we would provision (unless you wanted to change the phone to us at a later date)

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Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Fri 24-Feb-12 19:27:08
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In reply to a post by vivaciti:
Hi,
I can confirm if you order our Variety package, that is what we would provision for you.
Looking at your line stats you would be looking at a connection speed of around 15meg give or take.

Your phone line would remain unchanged, it is just the broadband we would provision (unless you wanted to change the phone to us at a later date)


Excellent. Need to get my MAC then i'll be placing an order. Thanks for the quick response.

Edited by andrewdb (Fri 24-Feb-12 19:28:07)


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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 24-Feb-12 20:08:53
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Let us know how you get on and speeds. I'm currently on Variety and liking it apart from the odd blip.

Tim
www.vivaciti.net & freenetname
Billion 7800 on 24 Meg Variety LLU
My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Fri 02-Mar-12 10:38:02
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I went live on Vivaciti Variety (Talktalk LLU) this morning

Currently:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 11787 kbps 1022 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.5 db 18.5 db
Noise Margin 6.2 db 8.8 db

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/1808354321.png[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.pingtest.net/result/58074983.png[/IMG]

But thinkbroadbands speedtest is only giving me 0.1mbps upload and download:

My Broadband Speed Test

i updated Java and it made no difference. Tried to run on port 80 but appeared to just sit there doing nothing.

Edited by andrewdb (Fri 02-Mar-12 11:45:24)

Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Fri 02-Mar-12 19:32:56
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Somewhat better :
My Broadband Speed Test

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 11787 kbps 1022 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.5 db 18.5 db
Noise Margin 5.3 db 8.9 db

So the introduction of TalkTalk equipment adds 3.5db to the line attenuation compared to my connection on NewNet.

Edited by andrewdb (Fri 02-Mar-12 19:35:38)

Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Fri 02-Mar-12 19:50:59
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Re: TalkTalk LLU..vivaciti + other resellers


[re: andrewdb] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by andrewdb:
Somewhat better :
My Broadband Speed Test

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 11787 kbps 1022 kbps
Line Attenuation 35.5 db 18.5 db
Noise Margin 5.3 db 8.9 db

So the introduction of TalkTalk equipment adds 3.5db to the line attenuation compared to my connection on NewNet.


Yeah its fairly common for an increase in attenuation when going from ADSL1 > ADSL2+, mine increased by 4db.

That speed test seems about right for your sync speed. Which router are you using? As your are on a short-ish line (stable?) it might be worth lowering your downstream noise margin to 2-3 db to get around 13 meg sync speed smile

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 02-Mar-12 20:11:30
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[re: andrewdb] [link to this post]
 
Looking good. I usually do best of 3 on TBB tester or use the BBC iPlayer speedtest which runs 4 seperate tests. Tweaking your router might increase sync.

Tim
www.vivaciti.net & freenetname
Billion 7800 on 24 Meg Variety LLU
My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User andrewdb
(committed) Fri 02-Mar-12 21:07:23
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In reply to a post by baby_frogmella:
That speed test seems about right for your sync speed. Which router are you using? As your are on a short-ish line (stable?) it might be worth lowering your downstream noise margin to 2-3 db to get around 13 meg sync speed smile

Netgear DG834PN with netgear V1.03.39 firmware. The line seems stable enough to me so i might do as you suggest and see if i can get away with a 4db target noise margin.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 02-Mar-12 22:23:54
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[re: andrewdb] [link to this post]
 
Sync speed & throughput about right for your line.

Think Vivaciti overestimated your Sync by forgetting attn. would go up by 3 dB when going to ADSL2+; easy to do.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
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