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Standard User Fragsey
(regular) Sun 26-Aug-12 16:35:46
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Vivaciti unusable at peak.


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I caurrently recieve very poor pings at peaks and weekends via Vivaciti.

Ever since the switch from MurphX to thier current service, where to logins changed, i get very poor pings and very slow browsing, to the point its unusable.

At the moment I use my laptop on mobile broadband as pings are better there on 3, but to slow for gaming.

I previously have contaxted vivaciti, and they have temporarily comes back, and as i am mostly busy at work during peaks and weekends (my family complain about slow speeds). I not had time to properly look into.

Doing traceroutes the connection routes through Entanet's network. I have been previously assured that its not a Enta LLU service they just route via the network.

I used to be on UKFSN via Entanet and had exactly the same problems with enta towards the end.When i first joined then they were great but went downhill rapidly.

On the MurphX connection although overall speeds offpeak was very slightly slower, the pings were pretty steady.

Heres what I can expect currently:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.71]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms READYSHARE [10.0.0.2]
2 1388 ms 1511 ms 1335 ms lns20.the.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.38]
3 1465 ms 1442 ms 1442 ms gi1-10.the.dist.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.37]
4 1457 ms 1529 ms 1431 ms te2-2.telehouse-east3.dsl.enta.net [78.33.141.81]
5 1401 ms 289 ms * te5-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.net [62.249.192.121]
6 1604 ms 1428 ms 1418 ms bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 1000 ms 1024 ms 1074 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
10 1073 ms 1019 ms 483 ms 132.185.255.148
11 645 ms 676 ms 707 ms bbc-vip116.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.71]

Trace complete

This is after switching my router from my netgear DGN2200 for my spare DG834G afer 30 mins disconnected

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.91]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms NETGEAR [10.0.0.2]
2 791 ms 789 ms 820 ms lns20.the.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.38]
3 824 ms 819 ms 851 ms gi1-10.the.dist.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.37]
4 855 ms 897 ms 880 ms te2-2.telehouse-east3.dsl.enta.net [78.33.141.81
]
5 915 ms 941 ms 944 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.net [62.249.192.1
21]
6 963 ms 975 ms 1011 ms bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 1172 ms 1201 ms 1221 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
9 1254 ms 1256 ms 1289 ms 132.185.255.165
10 1351 ms 1367 ms 1388 ms bbc-vip012.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.91]

Trace complete.

So not a router problem.

Stats:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 5125 kbps 880 kbps
Line Attenuation 61.5 db 36.0 db
Noise Margin 7.3 db 9.2 db (remaining pretty steady around this figure)

The things i mostly do on net are gaming, video streamign and radio net boradcasting, at the moment I am unable to use my connection for these things. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem via enta.

Dont get me wrong Vivaciti has been fantastic, but i lost my pantience with Enta a long time ago and will have to get a Mac code again to get away from enta if no other option frown As if i am home early or have a weekend off i cannot use my connection, any my family cant use it while im at work.

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Vivaciti LLU :: Avg. 5294k/832k 58db att. 6db SNR

Previously: UKFSN / entanet Max :: <n>ildram Max :: plusnet 512k/1Mbit :: Bulldog 512k :: BTopenworld 512k :: AOL 56k \o/
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 26-Aug-12 17:24:12
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Re: Vivaciti unusable at peak.


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Are those tracerts done with a wired connection, or wireless?

Your router stats also look extremely odd. There is no way you should be connecting at 5125kbps on 61.5dB attenuation. It doesn't look as though you have achieved that by tweaking, as you have a current margin of 7.9dB.

I would be looking for a close to home problem. Any chance you can also give us the error stats? You are very possibly getting huge numbers, and the router is spending all its time dealing with those instead of transmitting data.

Edit - deleted some rubbish I had put.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 26-Aug-12 17:28:02)

Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 26-Aug-12 18:34:51
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Re: Vivaciti unusable at peak.


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Odd question, have you asked Vivaciti if your line is doing much data either download, or upload during the times of high latency.

Also, have you tried using the line quality monitor on TBB to see if the latency is to the WAN interface of the router?

Matt

uno Broadband
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Edited by uno (Sun 26-Aug-12 18:35:32)


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Standard User Fragsey
(regular) Sun 26-Aug-12 19:15:25
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Re: Vivaciti unusable at peak.


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I currently connect all my computers via wired (apart from macbook i mainly use for work and sometimes update at home).

I plug directly into master test socket for last year as i knocked the faceplate and broke the connection (oops). Line was fine before switch from murphx, only with the odd dropouts and outages expected due to length of line.

I think that the DGN2200 misinterprets the line attenuation as 62db, as the DG834G interprets as 58db. have always been blessed with a relitively good sync for the length of line. I have at timeswhen tweaked managed to push to 6Mb

I have switched back on to the DGN2200, and of yet not got my error stats off of this router, incidently quite often offpeak when i get a really good ping, the SNRM goes down to 5.5-6db. Here is a tracert from offpeak:

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.68]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms READYSHARE [10.0.0.2]
2 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms lns13.the.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.10]
3 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms gi1-3.the.dist.dsl.enta.net [188.39.0.9]
4 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms te2-2.telehouse-east3.dsl.enta.net [78.33.141.81]
5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.net [62.249.192.121]
6 17 ms 18 ms 17 ms bbc-linx.pr01.thdow.bbc.co.uk [195.66.224.103]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 19 ms 18 ms 45 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
10 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms 132.185.255.148
11 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms bbc-vip113.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.68]

i think bbc always times out on hops 7/8

line seems to have stabilised a bit after a reboot so will try and figure out to get the error stats on this router or try and get my DG834N working again which can get full stats from.

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Vivaciti LLU :: Avg. 5294k/832k 58db att. 6db SNR

Previously: UKFSN / entanet Max :: <n>ildram Max :: plusnet 512k/1Mbit :: Bulldog 512k :: BTopenworld 512k :: AOL 56k \o/
Standard User vivaciti
(knowledge is power) Tue 28-Aug-12 11:05:34
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Re: Vivaciti unusable at peak.


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Hi,
Can you let me have your ticket number so I can get some diagnostics run on your line to try to find out whats going on.

www.vivaciti.net
Vivaciti Broadband
0800 0911797

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