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Standard User c0dec
(regular) Mon 08-Feb-10 20:10:25
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Starting to get abit angry now :(


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Starting having on and off issues just before xmas with my ping flying up at random times on random gateways, since then Interleaving has turned itself on even though im keeping a stable sync rate and ive had no disconnections, and tonight im getting 140ms to any gaming server but I can ping a the same gaming server from Windows at 30ms..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/daniel_green...

This has to be something Plusnet traffic management related? Im on the pro package but maybe my routing has gone wrong Plusnets end? It used to be amazing but recently has gone to pot!!
Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Mon 08-Feb-10 21:59:07
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Re: Starting to get abit angry now :(


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Maybe you have been put on a WBMC or IPSC connection. If so, I suggest that may be the root cause of your problems.

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Standard User c0dec
(member) Mon 08-Feb-10 22:23:42
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Can you explain what that is? I have no idea frown


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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 08-Feb-10 22:35:30
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Can you explain what that is? I have no idea frown

Have a look at Bob's bb info/help site wink

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Standard User c0dec
(member) Mon 08-Feb-10 22:44:06
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Ok thanks, that helps me understand it slightly more but how would this be causing me these random issues? My exchange is due to go live with 21CN next month so would I expect these issues to go then? Also I assume when this goes live my connection will become "Up to 24mbit" ?
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 08-Feb-10 22:56:55
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Obviously the latency has increased thanks to interleaving being switched on. Maybe the exchange equipment can switch it on automatically if something makes it think your line is becoming unstable etc. not sure about that. I know with maaf the default setting for interleaving was ON and the end user had to make a request to get it switched off.

This is one for a member of the PN Comms Team grin

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Standard User c0dec
(member) Mon 08-Feb-10 23:01:48
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Ive already requested it to be removed but thats not the main issue, the issue is I can ping gaming servers in windows at 30ms but the same IP at 140ms in game or in a game server browser... that has to be traffic management gone wrong.

Edited by c0dec (Mon 08-Feb-10 23:40:49)

Standard User RobertoS
(legend) Tue 09-Feb-10 09:29:59
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The whole point of IPSC is that it allows connection of a customer on a non-WBC-enabled exchange into the WBC backhaul at a later stage in the BT Cloud. As a result of that the ISP can pick get the traffic handed over at one of the 10 IPSC nodes and integrate it into their own backhaul WB(M)C from whatever WBC nodes they are using.

So the fact that your exchange hasn't been enabled doesn't matter.

What does matter, and I don't know the answer, is whether Plusnet are using IPSC yet - in order to reduce the load on Centrals and either avoid having to add to those or be able to decommission some as their contracts expire. That would still leave the question of whether your exchange was being routed that way.

Which brings us to the other question - so what if you are on IPSC? To which the answer is that the symptoms you are getting are exactly those experienced by many Entanet customers when they introduced these types of connection, and I believe AAISP and BT Total customers have done so as well. For example, see this AAISP blog.

The BT Wholesale systems and/or DLM on WB(M)C and IPSC still seem to be less than robust, to put it mildly.

As a minor issue, you are right in saying interleaving should not have this effect. The latest BT descriptions of the products say 20-40ms additional latency.

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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 09-Feb-10 09:31:02)

Standard User jelv
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 12-Feb-10 13:09:15
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Plusnet are not using IPSC. They trialled it (I was on the trial), but that ended and it was turned off again.

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Standard User darkhorizon472
(experienced) Fri 19-Feb-10 08:43:41
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In reply to a post by c0dec:
Starting having on and off issues just before xmas with my ping flying up at random times on random gateways, since then Interleaving has turned itself on even though im keeping a stable sync rate and ive had no disconnections, and tonight im getting 140ms to any gaming server but I can ping a the same gaming server from Windows at 30ms..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/daniel_green...

This has to be something Plusnet traffic management related? Im on the pro package but maybe my routing has gone wrong Plusnets end? It used to be amazing but recently has gone to pot!!


This is the reason I left Plusnet. Gaming servers randomly had consistant high pings (120ms +)and I was on the Pro package. It seemed to me their traffic management was a bit off at times. I moved to Zen and now get very stable gaming performance at any time of the day using exactly the same PC, router etc without any changes being made except switching ISP.
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