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Standard User noon
(regular) Sun 01-May-11 16:57:31
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More than four wired ethernet connections


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Hi

I have a Thomson router all working great, wired and wireless. However I need to have more than four ethernet cables on my network. Should it all work if I add in a switch?

I have tried this - connected a Belkin switch (via its "up" socket) to the Thomson. But a set top box (a Humax PVR) can't get an IP address from the Thomson via the Belkin. It can if I connect it direct.

Does anyone have any insights, please?

Thanks

Nick

Edited by noon (Sun 01-May-11 17:10:09)

Standard User qjh1
(newbie) Sun 01-May-11 17:23:46
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If you have a spare router or modem/router you can use this as a switch. Just connect one port of your current router to any of the "computer" ports on the second router or modem/router and plug 3 other computers into the remaining "Computer" ports. Remember to switch the DHCP server off (and the modem if you can) in the second unit. You can go on adding units like this essentially for ever - for each new one you gain 3 new ports - and routers tend to be cheaper than switches for some reason. You can also use the wireless function on some units as well as a "second" wireless network (use different wireless network settings on each) - but this varies a bit with the make/model.
Standard User ian007jen
(regular) Sun 01-May-11 17:40:37
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Also make sure the second router has an IP address in the same range as the first one (probably 192.168.1.nnn) and that this ip address in outside the DHCP addressses that the first router serves.

Ian


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Standard User kasg
(committed) Sun 01-May-11 17:54:46
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That's all well and good but doesn't explain why OP's setup isn't working - I have no trouble obtaining IP addresses via a Netgear switch.

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Standard User petervaughan
(knowledge is power) Sun 01-May-11 21:29:15
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That sounds like an old switch - you don't normally get "up" connections now as most have auto-sensing ports that detect cross-over situations.

It should work fine with a switch so I suspect the switch you have is not working correctly - or if the "up" port has a push button next to it, it may be in the wrong mode so try the button in the other position.

They are very cheap now so I suggest you buy a new switch and try that.

- Peter

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 01-May-11 22:34:39
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In reply to a post by qjh1:
... for each new one you gain 3 new ports ....
Two tongue.

Incidentally a few "routers" have hubs not switches. They can mess things up.

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-May-11 11:06:17
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I've done exactly that sort of thing with a variety of switches and hubs with no issues whatsoever. It is a standard option for people where their master socket is away from where they have their PCs (put the router in the master and run a long ethernet cable to a switch in the room where they have their PCs).

What model of Belkin switch are you using?

jelv

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Standard User noon
(regular) Mon 02-May-11 14:29:20
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This has all been really useful, thanks to all who replied.

The Belkin switch is so old I daren't look what the model is! If what I am trying to do is otherwise reasonable, the switch has to be the number one suspect, and will be replaced.

Very useful to discover that one can (in general) redeploy ADSL routers as switches and wireless access points. I shall look at this too, cos I do have a redundant router and would love to have WiFi coverage in more corners of the house!

Thanks again

Nick
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 02-May-11 17:53:34
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For wireless coverage, if you want to be able to move around you can connect them wired, with the same SSID but different channels, and your whatever should pick up the stronger signal as you move. A bit like a mobile and the masts, though I don't expect it is completely seamless.

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Standard User Cruddas
(newbie) Mon 02-May-11 18:58:42
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Hi Noon

As I understand it the reason why the Belkin switch is not working as expected is that you have connected it to the uplink port. I think you will find if you connect the switch to one of the 4 LAN ports it will work.
Good luck

Cruddas
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