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Standard User afsar
(newbie) Wed 27-Feb-13 11:13:35
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Sync Speed vs Speed Test (ADSL2+)


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I recently moved from O2 to Plusnet and I have noticed the following hope someone can help clarify.

- With sync speed of say 6518 kbps what should I expect from speed tests. I am getting between 4.4 - 4.6 Mbps. With O2 it was lot closer to the sync speed. I have tried various speed site and computers ...same results.
- The same for upload around .86 Mbps

Router - Technicolor TG582n (ordered a billion 7800N)
DSL Connection -
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.046 / 6.518

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 64,82 / 133,49

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,6 / 0,0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 24,8 / 41,0

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,1 / 3,9

System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----

Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 9 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 1 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): -

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 13 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 379 / 24.135

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 3

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 2
Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 27-Feb-13 12:18:31
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Re: Sync Speed vs Speed Test (ADSL2+)


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Actually your line is underperforming: one might expect a minimum ADSL2+ downstream sync of 7552Kbps with a 6dB SNRM on an attenuation of 41dB. Yet your router is reporting a SNRM of 3.9dB which should enable an even faster sync speed.

Possibly you may have a home wiring issue: if you have any phone extensions from the master NTE5 faceplate have you removed the bell wire(s)? The bell wire can introduce noise on the line and reduce it's full potential...
Standard User Ianph
(committed) Wed 27-Feb-13 12:20:44
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Re: Sync Speed vs Speed Test (ADSL2+)


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throughput is normally ~86% of sync so those speeds are normal

there is some slight noise present indicated by the 3.9 decibel (DOWN SNR) but shouldnt cause any worry

just for the hell of it can you explain your setup from the master socket .. i.e any extensions, sky boxes or fax machine and extra corded/cordless phones in the property?


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Standard User afsar
(newbie) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:17:15
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Re: Sync Speed vs Speed Test (ADSL2+)


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Thanks for your replies.

My router is connected directly to the master socket. No extension or any other type of kit connect to it. The master socket is newly (today) fitted openreach socket.

Comment on plusnet support site is...

"Loop loss of 40db - this needs the SNR target to be raised to at least 6db as 3db is causing DCN, errors and throughput speed issues."

Not sure what this will do...
Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:27:22
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Have you got any alternative micro filters (dangle filters) and an ADSL lead that you try?

BTW. what operating system are you using on your computer?
Standard User afsar
(newbie) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:36:10
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The BT engineer actually replaced the socket today to rule things out. I have the RJ11 cable directly into the wall socket without any dangle filters.

The operating system is Windows 7.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:41:17
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Re: Sync Speed vs Speed Test (ADSL2+)


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In reply to a post by afsar:
My router is connected directly to the master socket.
Best to repeat all those readings from the hidden test socket behind the removable faceplate. This takes all other factors out the equation for starters.

As a rule of thumb, I reckon Throughput = ~ 83% Sync speed. So your down throughput is a bit down; should be ~ 5.4 Meg, but Up speed is spot-on.

As others have pointed out, your line is underperforming. Should sync at ~ 8.6 Meg.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:45:39
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Sometimes those filtered faceplates can be more unreliable than danglers. Still try from test socket with dangler.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:48:38
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In reply to a post by afsar:
The BT engineer actually replaced the socket today to rule things out. I have the RJ11 cable directly into the wall socket without any dangle filters.

The operating system is Windows 7.


Ah, so the engineer fitted a filtered faceplate also - those filtered faceplates have been known to cause problems. Can you remove the filtered faceplate and use either a modem lead or a dangle filter + RJ11 cable from the NTE5 test socket to the router. And also reboot the router? Maybe the sync speed and SNRM might be optimised if you do that...

If the computer OS was XP then there could have been some issues with ADSL2+ throughput speed, but Win7 should be OK smile
Standard User afsar
(newbie) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:49:03
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I was getting throughput of 5+ Meg on O2 with exact same set-up (apart from the router) so not sure why same cannot be archived on plusnet.

Output from site - http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome.

Telephone Number 01484xxxxxx on Exchange HUDDERSFIELD is served by Cabinet 13
Available Products

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Upstream Line Rate(Mbps)

Downstream Range(Mbps)

Availability Date

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WBC ADSL 2+ Up to 11 -- 9.5 to 12.5 Available
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ADSL Max Up to 5 -- 3.5 to 7.5 Available
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