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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 22-May-13 11:57:50
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BQM - I think not relevant to gaming performance on PN


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Like many others I have the evening BQM hump even when not using the computer. I get the impression some people take this to indicate the likelihood of poor gaming performance.

I don't think this is the case. My point being that the PN traffic management is specifically designed to prioritise gaming traffic, and bog standard ping tests are almost certain to be in the bronze queue.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User timl
(member) Wed 22-May-13 12:57:37
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Re: BQM - I think not relevant to gaming performance on PN


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Agreed, theoretically, it should work in Plusnets favor.

My personal experience of Plusnet is that, from time to time, I experience appalling latency (120ms+) which has resulted in dire VOIP call quality and impossible gaming. I logged a call with Plusnet ages ago and they basically said they can't do anything.

I experimented with reconnecting to another aggregator and so far this has worked and restored really excellent latency.

I've experienced this type of behavior on both my DSL connections which are on different exchanges.

As an aside I noticed that since they did some work on the aggregators my latency increased by about 3-5ms but it differs from one aggregator to another.

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Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 22-May-13 13:02:35
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Good point.

You should be able to see the queue used if you get some Wireshark logs of the packets. Not sure of the details though - but they can be found on the PN site.


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Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-May-13 13:20:39
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
I don't think this is the case. My point being that the PN traffic management is specifically designed to prioritise gaming traffic, and bog standard ping tests are almost certain to be in the bronze queue.

I got the impression from earlier discussions that bronze will only run slower than titanium on an idle line when Plusnet's pipes are full.

Oliver.
Standard User narz
(member) Wed 22-May-13 15:35:15
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Oh lord - this is the last thing I want to read after just signing up to a 18 months this week!

I game online everyday, I'm doomed. I'm dooooomed!
Standard User Elkin
(learned) Wed 22-May-13 15:56:28
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Oh lord - this is the last thing I want to read after just signing up to a 18 months this week!

I game online everyday, I'm doomed. I'm dooooomed!


lol. I'll play a few times a week (on xbox) and haven't noticed any issues... in fact...the missus will back me up with the fact that I can game and she can look at her next and debenhams websites without me bitching about the lag. smile

no value to this post really - just thought id try and cheer you up laugh

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Standard User narz
(member) Wed 22-May-13 16:05:34
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lol. I'll play a few times a week (on xbox) and haven't noticed any issues... in fact...the missus will back me up with the fact that I can game and she can look at her next and debenhams websites without me bitching about the lag. smile

no value to this post really - just thought id try and cheer you up laugh


Good reviews from gamers definitely help, and are a plus point. he he.
Standard User timl
(member) Wed 22-May-13 16:16:11
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When using games, I've only ever noticed it twice in the last 5 months - and it went back to normal after a quick reconnect to a different gateway - so even the fix is easy.

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Standard User WWWombat
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 22-May-13 16:57:08
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You probably want to see this page of TBB graphs:
http://community.plus.net/ping-graphs/
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 22-May-13 17:08:28
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Oh lord - this is the last thing I want to read after just signing up to a 18 months this week!

I game online everyday, I'm doomed. I'm dooooomed!
That was my point smile. That you are exactly the opposite from doomed. Note on the graphs page that WWWombat has just given you the link to that there is no packet loss.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Allergy information: This post was manufactured in an environment where nuts are present. It may include traces of understatement, litotes and humour.
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