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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 28-Aug-13 11:05:21
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Two FTTC lines, 16 times difference on upload


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Ticket #73542255 if anyone has some time while I'm here looking at it.

As discussed in Fibre section- two 80/20 lines one runs 16M upstream other only 0.9.

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Phil

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Edited by yarwell (Wed 28-Aug-13 11:10:55)

ISP Representative chrispurvey
(isp) Wed 28-Aug-13 16:18:07
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Re: Two FTTC lines, 16 times difference on upload


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We've been monitoring your connection, do you currently turn your router & modem off at night?

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-Aug-13 16:51:14
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Re: Two FTTC lines, 16 times difference on upload


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why do u need two lines of fttc? i thought plusnet say they will not support it. only on adsl2+

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 28-Aug-13 22:56:31
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Re: Two FTTC lines, 16 times difference on upload


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Are you thinking of bonding, Max? That hasn't been mentioned. There could be many reasons for two distinct lines, and I'm sure PlusNet would happily supply them.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 28-Aug-13 23:54:31
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Re: Two FTTC lines, 16 times difference on upload


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all of the IT kit was on a time switch, this has been changed (I am told) however the problem persists.

I don't know why turning off the modem at 1am would affect the upstream sync it achieved during the day, to be honest.

There are two FTTC lines feeding a load balancing / auto failover / whatever dual WAN router. It's a bit OTT and works a lot better now it is set to use the good line on WAN 2.

Today I switched modems with no benefit.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Wed 28-Aug-13 23:54:39
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two bonded lines of FTTC could give u 160/40 but it will cost more on two line rentals plus two account on plusnet.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 29-Aug-13 00:07:46
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
two bonded lines of FTTC could give u 160/40 but it will cost more on two line rentals plus two account on plusnet.


It's intended for resilience as much as capacity, although the same dropwire, DP, PCP, FTTC cab, Wholesaler and ISP are involved in both lines so it's not great IMHO. If one line were TT or Sky there would be more resilience, or better still one FTTC and one Cable connection.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Thu 29-Aug-13 00:49:37
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Are u saying 120/12 with virgin media and 80/20 with plusnet will give the better outcome 200/32?

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Standard User uno
(knowledge is power) Thu 29-Aug-13 02:05:11
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No, I think he is saying better resilience.

Cable and the telco would generally not share any infrastructure. Say, if someone drove in to the FTTC cab serving the house, if he had 2 FTTC services regardless of the supplier, they'd generally be in the same cab.

If one was virgin, it would be a different cab and quite a good chance unaffected.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Thu 29-Aug-13 07:23:11
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In reply to a post by uno:
Cable and the telco would generally not share any infrastructure. Say, if someone drove in to the FTTC cab serving the house, if he had 2 FTTC services regardless of the supplier, they'd generally be in the same cab.

If one was virgin, it would be a different cab and quite a good chance unaffected.

This.

The overhead line from the telegraph pole carries both lines to the same cab and PCP sat on a street corner, slightly vulnerable. Both lines are carried by BT Wholesale to Plusnet, so more common points of failure. A VM cable line wouldn't share any of these features - like a gas fire keeps working when there's no electric.

Willy waving speed numbers are for willy wavers.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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