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Standard User SilverBlack
(member) Thu 05-Jun-14 23:19:48
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Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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Im thinking of joining Plusnet currently with BT.
When downloading from usenet i get full speeds at all times.
But ive read some Plusnet users are traffic shaped when downloading from usenet.
Is this the case or do you get full speed at all times ?

Left the dial-up speeds on 02 Access for ADSL24 !
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 05-Jun-14 23:36:24
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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On Essential Fibre it can be limited to 2Mbps in the evenings. On Unlimited fibre it is not restricted.

See also this blog article.

It does seem to be the case that the traffic management system does reduce the maximum speed test speed on an 80Mbps sync, by 2-3 Mbps. There is an official explanation for this, suggesting it is a false speed test result, but I've not got round to fully understanding it so can't pass judgement.

Users on legacy products will be managed as per the product they are on.

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 05-Jun-14 23:37:26)

Standard User SilverBlack
(member) Thu 05-Jun-14 23:48:02
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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Cheers as long as the d/load speed remains the same for usenet,only other activity is browsing and email no streaming so speeds should be the same.

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jun-14 10:23:38
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
On Essential Fibre it can be limited to 2Mbps in the evenings. On Unlimited fibre it is not restricted.

See also this blog article.

It does seem to be the case that the traffic management system does reduce the maximum speed test speed on an 80Mbps sync, by 2-3 Mbps. There is an official explanation for this, suggesting it is a false speed test result, but I've not got round to fully understanding it so can't pass judgement.

Users on legacy products will be managed as per the product they are on.


Would the pro addon change that?
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jun-14 10:26:07
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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I don't do USENET but DL speed is always top for me 24/7 from HTTP and FTP

I assume, as most people do you will use 443 SSL. Even just 119 or 23 I have heard people say there is no slowdown. The Traffic Management applies to the connection and how it's used in the home (i/e if someone is doing P2P and someone wants to stream they can) if it's just you on the connection (like it is for me here) there is no problem. I can download at nearly full speed and stream HD at the same time.

The pro addon lifts everything into Gold (with gaming and voip into Titanium)l. Not so sure about on Fibre but on ADSL it was a blessing.

Edited by pcoventry76 (Fri 06-Jun-14 10:54:01)

Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jun-14 11:38:43
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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In reply to a post by pcoventry76:
Would the pro addon change that?

If you're talking about the 2-3Mbps reduction, I don't believe so, but it's an interesting question.

Kevin

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Fri 06-Jun-14 12:29:46
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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It puts everything into gold apart from Voip and Gaming which are Titanium I believe

It won't affect the sync. I've looked it up online but I am hoping someone from the CSC can confirm
Standard User kasg
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jun-14 15:37:46
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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Yes, I realise that and I know it doesn't affect the sync speed (nothing the ISP does can), I was thinking of the specific effect whereby maximum attainable speed on Plusnet appears to be slightly lower than other ISPs; it has been discussed here and in the Community Forums at some length, and various tests done, but I don't know the outcome.

Kevin

plusnet Unlimited Fibre - sync approx 70000/20000 at 450m - BQM
Using OpenDNS
Domains and web hosting with TSOHOST

Edited by kasg (Fri 06-Jun-14 15:38:09)

Standard User Oldjim
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 06-Jun-14 17:20:11
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Re: Traffic Shaping on Fibre


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There wasn't really one
It just seems that going through the Plusnet system drops it down a bit from their mirror of the IP profile
There was a lot of technical information from Dave but, although most of it went over my head, I don't think that there was a clear statement of why it was happening
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