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Standard User Jovin
(member) Wed 04-Nov-15 20:27:22
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good line speed, terrible browsing!


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Hi All
I am finding that using the internet especially in the evening is becoming very difficult as it gets so slow. Usually there is only one machine online at any one time altho we do have a couple of laptops connected by WIFI which suffer exactly the same, the main pc is wired connection direct to the router. Ironically one of the slowest sites seems to be Plusnets own including webmail!

Router stats are as follows:
Uptime: 0 days, 12:50:03
DSL Type: ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,123 / 10,311
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 227.73 / 816.53
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.6 / 0.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 19.9 / 36.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 7.1 / 6.4
System Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / ----
Chipset Vendor ID (Local/Remote): BDCM / IFTN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): -
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 613 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 239 / 873
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 280 / 4,488

Ping:

Pinging ntp.plus.net [212.159.13.50] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.159.13.50: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
Reply from 212.159.13.50: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=58
Reply from 212.159.13.50: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=58
Reply from 212.159.13.50: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=58

Ping statistics for 212.159.13.50:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 11ms

BtW test results:
Download speedachieved during the test was - 8.61 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 4 Mbps-21 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 9.1 Mbps

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 0.84Mbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 0.83 Mbps

problem persists whichever browser is used. Cookies etc are cleared about once a week sometimes longer using CCleaner.
Downloading files is fine and will max out the connection at around 1MB (note capital B!)

Have tried changing to OpenDNS on router but has made little or no difference.

Machine is Windows 7 with all upgrades
8GBRAM and 4th gen i3 processor

I don't believe this a line problem as such, maybe exchange congestion?

Any help/ suggestions appreciated

John

John

Edited by Jovin (Wed 04-Nov-15 20:27:55)

Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-Nov-15 20:47:35
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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Could you run a thinkbroadband speed test: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/speedtest2.html

I'd like to see if there is a difference between the x1 and x6 speed.

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 04-Nov-15 21:48:40
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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What do you think of the upstream IP Profile jelv? It looks strange to me, as he doesn't seem to be on interleaving. Though not obviously relevant.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59997/15142kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Wed 04-Nov-15 21:49:36)


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Standard User Jovin
(member) Wed 04-Nov-15 22:20:28
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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In reply to a post by jelv:
Could you run a thinkbroadband speed test: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/speedtest2.html

I'd like to see if there is a difference between the x1 and x6 speed.


Result of speed test here http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

John
Standard User ChrisAO
(regular) Thu 05-Nov-15 10:58:51
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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Quoting 0.83 for the upstream profile on ADSL2+ is fairly standard for the BTw test.
But the Upstream throughput seemed a tad slow on the BTw test, but then Jovin isn't the only user seeing these issues.
However the TBB test seems better.

ChrisAO
Plusnet customer since June 2003.

Edited by ChrisAO (Thu 05-Nov-15 11:01:26)

Standard User ChrisAO
(regular) Thu 05-Nov-15 11:09:58
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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In reply to a post by Jovin:
Ironically one of the slowest sites seems to be Plusnets own including webmail!
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I don't believe this a line problem as such, maybe exchange congestion?


Hi John,

Plusnet's main site, mail and forum are slow compared to a lot of other sites shocked

As for your line, the stats look pretty good, I wouldn't regard that as being a problem. The CRC errors could be a touch lower but aren't excessive for a non-interleaved line, I've seen a lot worse.

As for congestion, quite possible, could be anywhere on the BT network/backhaul or Plusnet network. But as mentioned the TBB test looks pretty good, not showing any real issues at the time you ran it wink

ChrisAO
Plusnet customer since June 2003.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 05-Nov-15 14:46:15
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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In reply to a post by ChrisAO:
Quoting 0.83 for the upstream profile on ADSL2+ is fairly standard for the BTw test.
It's standard when interleaving is on. Not when it isn't smile. That's why I thought it odd.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59997/15142kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User ChrisAO
(regular) Thu 05-Nov-15 14:51:42
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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I think you might be getting confused with what appears to be an 888kbps banded upstream speed in a lot of cases with interleaving. I will point out that there are cases where the banded speed of 888 hasn't happened despite Interleaving being on. But I'll have to go and review a load of BTw speedtest posts to be certain of your point.

ChrisAO
Plusnet customer since June 2003.
Standard User Jovin
(member) Thu 05-Nov-15 18:44:58
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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In reply to a post by ChrisAO:
In reply to a post by Jovin:
Ironically one of the slowest sites seems to be Plusnets own including webmail!
................
I don't believe this a line problem as such, maybe exchange congestion?


Hi John,

Plusnet's main site, mail and forum are slow compared to a lot of other sites shocked

As for your line, the stats look pretty good, I wouldn't regard that as being a problem. The CRC errors could be a touch lower but aren't excessive for a non-interleaved line, I've seen a lot worse.

As for congestion, quite possible, could be anywhere on the BT network/backhaul or Plusnet network. But as mentioned the TBB test looks pretty good, not showing any real issues at the time you ran it wink


Hi Chris

Herein les the problem, the stats are always pretty good even when web browser performance is terrible so dont really know what else to do....
Since posting line stats etc I have also downloaded Routerstats altho not worked out fully how to drive it yet but it does report that interleaving is on.

John
Standard User ChrisAO
(regular) Thu 05-Nov-15 19:41:03
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Re: good line speed, terrible browsing!


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High again John, now, IIRC there is a bit of a bug there in RS, incorrectly reporting that.
Have a look at your current stats, if the FEC errors are still zero, then interleaving is still off.
Also the ping times you posted in your OP strongly suggest interleaving is off.

Try running that TBB speed test that jelv posted the link for, at peak times, and especially when you are seeing problems with normal browsing - but ignore the Plusnet sites crazy

ChrisAO
Plusnet customer since June 2003.
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