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Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 03-Jan-18 23:31:10
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Re: X86-64 Intel Security Issue


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News articles such as this one make it seem like a rare thing.
Bugs that let you access ring 0 data from ring 3 are.

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Standard User NICK_ADSL_UK
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Jan-18 23:32:06
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this has just been released by the bbc Major flaw in millions of Intel chips revealed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42553818

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Standard User NICK_ADSL_UK
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 03-Jan-18 23:36:29
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this has just been released by the bbc Major flaw in millions of Intel chips revealed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42553818



my advice is to not update any patch with regards this flaw until such time it has been deemed safe to do so otherwise your system could become very sluggish or fail to boot

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Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 03-Jan-18 23:47:28
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Re: X86-64 Intel Security Issue


[re: NICK_ADSL_UK] [link to this post]
 
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this has just been released by the bbc
Thanks, but with all due respect- on this sort of material there are sources who I'd rather trust than Auntie Beeb tongue

But it should make the vulnerability more widely known, which overall is probably a good thing (although Intel might differ!) as it will scare more people into installing the latest updates.

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Edited by billford (Thu 04-Jan-18 00:29:32)

Standard User billford
(elder) Wed 03-Jan-18 23:53:04
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Re: X86-64 Intel Security Issue


[re: NICK_ADSL_UK] [link to this post]
 
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my advice is to not update any patch with regards this flaw until such time it has been deemed safe to do so otherwise your system could become very sluggish or fail to boot
If El Reg is to be believed, Apple have already incorporated it into macOS 10.13.2, which was released some weeks ago and which I'm running. It does seem a bit slower in some areas, that may also be due to a new video subsystem, but nothing noticeable (in normal use) otherwise.

I haven't tried really hammering the system yet, and I can't speak for Windows machines- haven't got any tongue

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-Jan-18 01:57:00
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MS has released a patch today and my machine (W10) is now automatically downloading it so looks like I am an early tester.

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Standard User billford
(elder) Thu 04-Jan-18 02:01:48
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so looks like I am an early tester.
At least you know about it, when Apple released their patch I was an unknowing tester crazy

But that's Apple for you [shrug]

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-Jan-18 02:38:44
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UserBenchmarks: Game 12%, Desk 31%, Work 18%
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 - 24.5%
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT 610 - 2.3%
SSD: Crucial MX200 500GB - 38.8%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB - 59.4%
HDD: Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 500GB - 60.6%
HDD: Seagate ST380011A 80GB - 25.3%
RAM: Unknown 4x2GB - 19.2%
MBD: MSI MS-7360

So I have installed the Cumulative Update on my Win 10 Pro 64 bit system and after I run the above benchmark. Before the patch the Desk was 28% and Work 17% although my system has been up a few days it seems faster after the reboot. I am assuming this is the CPU patch but checking on my 32 bit system Win 10 Pro no updates are available.

Can anyone confirm I have the patch on my 64 bit system?

Edit: Just been on to Windows Support Chat and the agent gave me a link, https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4056892/win... which looking down the list the 7th item includes Kernel Security Update. So looks like I have the patch for my 64 bit system and waiting for 32 bit system but it seems faster!

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Edited by Banger (Thu 04-Jan-18 03:01:35)

Standard User kitfit1
(newbie) Thu 04-Jan-18 03:05:55
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Re: X86-64 Intel Security Issue


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UserBenchmarks: Game 12%, Desk 31%, Work 18%
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 - 24.5%
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT 610 - 2.3%
SSD: Crucial MX200 500GB - 38.8%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB - 59.4%
HDD: Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 500GB - 60.6%
HDD: Seagate ST380011A 80GB - 25.3%
RAM: Unknown 4x2GB - 19.2%
MBD: MSI MS-7360

So I have installed the Cumulative Update on my Win 10 Pro 64 bit system and after I run the above benchmark. Before the patch the Desk was 28% and Work 17% although my system has been up a few days it seems faster after the reboot. I am assuming this is the CPU patch but checking on my 32 bit system Win 10 Pro no updates are available.

Can anyone confirm I have the patch on my 64 bit system?


If your update is cumulative it will not have the CPU patch on it yet until next Tuesday. At the moment the patch is only available as a stand alone download for those that want it now. It will be moved to the normal Windows update next Tuesday as part of the normal "Patch Tuesday" updates.
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 04-Jan-18 03:09:21
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Re: X86-64 Intel Security Issue


[re: kitfit1] [link to this post]
 
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In reply to a post by Banger:
UserBenchmarks: Game 12%, Desk 31%, Work 18%
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 - 24.5%
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT 610 - 2.3%
SSD: Crucial MX200 500GB - 38.8%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB - 59.4%
HDD: Hitachi HDS721050CLA362 500GB - 60.6%
HDD: Seagate ST380011A 80GB - 25.3%
RAM: Unknown 4x2GB - 19.2%
MBD: MSI MS-7360

So I have installed the Cumulative Update on my Win 10 Pro 64 bit system and after I run the above benchmark. Before the patch the Desk was 28% and Work 17% although my system has been up a few days it seems faster after the reboot. I am assuming this is the CPU patch but checking on my 32 bit system Win 10 Pro no updates are available.

Can anyone confirm I have the patch on my 64 bit system?


If your update is cumulative it will not have the CPU patch on it yet until next Tuesday. At the moment the patch is only available as a stand alone download for those that want it now. It will be moved to the normal Windows update next Tuesday as part of the normal "Patch Tuesday" updates.


Got a link to the patch?

Tim
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