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Standard User Xplosion
(newbie) Thu 10-May-12 21:18:04
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Soon to be a Sky Broadband user


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Hi I'm new to these forums but have often used them as a reference on past occasions.

I am currently with Plusnet, using ADSL Max and as I find it to be slow during peak times and it doesn't cater for my needs otherwise, I am venturing to Sky's Broadband Unlimited package. I ordered this on the 1st of this month and it's due to be activated next Thursday (17th).

In doing this, I believe I can benefit from ADSL2+ technology using their LLU network and as I am close to my Telephone Exchange, Sky believe I should get 11.2-18.0 Mbps.

I shall post my router stats below, so can someone work out what speeds I should realistically get from Sky?

DSL Type: G.992.1 annex A
Channel mode: Interleave
Maximum Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 932 / 10,560
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 7,616
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/GB]: 0.00 / 82.29
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11.5 / 19.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 10.0 / 17.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 22.0 / 16.5

Many Thanks,
Xplosion
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Thu 10-May-12 21:56:01
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you should be getting around 18Mbps figure with those stats smile

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 10-May-12 22:11:12
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You should get over 20 Meg Sync on ADSL2+.

However be aware that Sky is Full LLU, they also take over your phone line, which makes it the devil's own job to migrate away later on. See the trouble this user is having: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/sky/t/4122118-re-sk...

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC


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Standard User Xplosion
(newbie) Thu 10-May-12 22:38:31
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Re: Soon to be a Sky Broadband user


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In reply to a post by Kr1s69:
you should be getting around 18Mbps figure with those stats smile


That's great news thanks, Kris

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
You should get over 20 Meg Sync on ADSL2+.

However be aware that Sky is Full LLU, they also take over your phone line, which makes it the devil's own job to migrate away later on. See the trouble this user is having: http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/sky/t/4122118-re-sk...


Also, great news (re: sync speed) and I have read about others who've experienced hell switching in and out of LLU but if it all goes well I shan't be switching anyway.

Thanks all for your replies so far, I'll post my Sky stats pre-DLM and then once the 10 days are up smile
Standard User Kr1s69
(knowledge is power) Fri 11-May-12 15:11:54
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I'd say 20Meg too but with sky they seem to be a little more conservative with noise margin....

Kris

Sky Broadband Unlimited
Ashington (Northumberland) Exchange
Fibre due June 2012!
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 11-May-12 16:28:08
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Only by 1 point from the norm; worth at most 0.4 Meg.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User Xplosion
(newbie) Thu 17-May-12 08:54:55
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Okay so it's now the big day, the day that Sky said my line and broadband would become active. As of yet my Plusnet broadband still functions and I haven't got any texts from Sky nor has the order tracker moved past the router dispatched stage.

I'm aware this is normal as it can take up to midnight to activate Sky line rental and broadband, however I'd like to know what will happen today and the time that the work is likely to be completed.

Please bear in mind I'm going onto full LLU on the SVBN (Sky Voice and Broadband Network).

Thanks,
Xplosion
Standard User Xplosion
(newbie) Thu 17-May-12 11:46:39
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Just went live.

I must say I'm impressed, the DNS seems much better than Plusnet's. Even at half the speed, pages are loading in half the time. Obviously the speed is only slow because of DLM, but will improve in the next 10 days.

As promised, my stats...

Downstream: 4095 kbps
Upstream: 606 kbps
Line Attenuation: 18.5 dB/11.7 dB
Noise Margin: 15.3 dB/18.3 dB

Will post follow-up stats on the 27th (when DLM completes).

Thanks,
Xplosion
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 17-May-12 16:55:35
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Speeds should ramp up well before the 27th

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User ukhardy07
(experienced) Thu 17-May-12 17:08:13
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Do not turn off the router off during DLM

If it detects a router switch off DLM often reduces the sync.

DLM works on a kind of 'you have to earn it' basis.
Before it increases your speeds it likes to see that everything is absolutely perfect. It can take several days of DLM constantly monitoring before it increases the speed.

Also once the speeds increased it can go back down if DLM finds an error build up.

Changes in speed usually always occur during the middle of the night at around 2am and it can take a while before the internet comes back on.

Also I'm shocked at how much the attenuation has decreased. Hopefully you will see around the full 20mbps.

Edited by ukhardy07 (Thu 17-May-12 17:09:06)

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