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Standard User astanden
(member) Wed 05-Sep-18 17:02:42
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Own Router


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Hi,

https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Broadband/Using-own-mod...

With the recent changes to Sky's T&C's regarding using own routers, can I now use a BT Openreach HG612 modem and an Apple Time Capsule with Sky's fibre broadband?

If yes, any ideas what settings I need to put in?

Many thanks,

Adam

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 05-Sep-18 18:42:38
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DHCP over WAN with the ability to send Option 61 with the DHCP request.

Oliver.
Standard User gymno74
(newbie) Thu 06-Sep-18 14:03:25
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Re: Own Router


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There's some great step-by-step info here:
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-broadband-fibre-h...

The thread was started in 2012 so initially there are a few inaccuracies, such as needing to extract username & password (you don't anymore) but evolves to april this year with various specific mentions of HG612 & time capsule.


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Standard User astanden
(member) Thu 06-Sep-18 15:05:21
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Thanks,

Link says page requested not found.

Iíll have a rummage later

BW

Adam

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 06-Sep-18 15:30:53
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Link works fine here.
Standard User astanden
(member) Thu 06-Sep-18 15:45:00
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Works now thanks

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Standard User stniuk
(experienced) Tue 11-Sep-18 19:23:40
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[re: astanden] [link to this post]
 
Using an HG612 with an apple extreme 5th gen I think for a couple of years with no problems.
When you are setting up download the airport utility app switch both modem and router on, wait for a couple of minutes. Tap or click the router in the airport utility app then tap or click edit top right in app.
Tap or click internet connection then select pppoe enter you user name and password, supplied by the isp. That should connect and work fine.
BTW I'm on plusnet, which I find works great for me.

Edited by stniuk (Tue 11-Sep-18 19:28:48)

Standard User astanden
(member) Tue 11-Sep-18 19:42:59
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Thanks.

I had read somewhere that for Sky fibre broadband, you need to set the router to DHCP Option 61 which I canít find on the Apple airport settings. If you say itís plug and play thatís great.

Adam

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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 11-Sep-18 20:35:02
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In reply to a post by astanden:
Thanks.

I had read somewhere that for Sky fibre broadband, you need to set the router to DHCP Option 61 which I canít find on the Apple airport settings. If you say itís plug and play thatís great.

Adam
This is a list of Sky compatible routers. AIUI you also need the MER feature.

Michael Chare
Standard User astanden
(member) Tue 11-Sep-18 21:40:18
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Thanks for that list.

It would appear that sky Broadband is not compatible with Apple hardware.

I wonder what is different with Sky fibre phone lines from BT Openreach based phone lines and green cabinets?

Thanks anyway

Adam

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Standard User MCM
(knowledge is power) Wed 12-Sep-18 00:24:25
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I wonder what is different with Sky fibre phone lines from BT Openreach based phone lines and green cabinets?
There is no difference, Sky runs over Openreach lines as do all other ISPs other than Virgin Media. The difference, as was stated earlier in this thread, is that Sky choose to use DHCP Option 61/MER for authentication.
Standard User stniuk
(experienced) Wed 12-Sep-18 08:34:27
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I have sky Q and it has its own mesh WiFi system. The main box acts as a repeater where the mini boxes connect wirelessly to it. Maybe this has something to do with it maybe not but I had some trouble connecting the mini box to the q main box wirelessly in the end I just connected them over Ethernet. The complicated hoops that you have to jump through to get it working with standard equipment show a bit of disregard for standards on skyís part imo. If you have skyís equipment they like you to use skyís internet.
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 12-Sep-18 11:35:17
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Although people commonly refer to Sky's slightly eclectic authentication system as "MER" (because that's the word Sky used within their router interface), it is actually no different to plain old RFC 2684 (IPoEoATM), which every router supports.

The only difference is the requirement to send DHCP client option 61, and the use of the phrase "MER" with no further clarification does not convey this information.

Oliver.
Standard User astanden
(member) Sat 22-Sep-18 11:45:00
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Thankyou all for your comments.

Regards,

Adam

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