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Standard User toppoff
(newbie) Thu 17-Mar-11 15:51:24
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Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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Hi,

I'm thinking of moving from my current BB supplier (BT) to TalkTalk LLU.

My reason for moving is mainly the suposed cost reduction - I've had very few problems with BT and are generally happy.

I'm a heavy user - between 100-1500GB per month. It's all Usenet - mainly between midnight and 9am.

I currently get around 3.5-4meg from BT and I'm interested in what speeds I may get? And also anyone's experiences.

Here's my current router stats:

ADSL line status
Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 0 days, 23:33:11
Downstream 5,760 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps

ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up) 10.8 dB / 21.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 36.0 dB / 19.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 19.8 dBm / 12.2 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 985690 / 1
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 76 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local) 37

Thanks for any info recieved.

Adrian

Edited by toppoff (Thu 17-Mar-11 15:52:25)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Mar-11 16:00:38
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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You could get 11 - 12 Meg Sync. on ADSL2+ LLU.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User normcall
(member) Thu 17-Mar-11 16:26:03
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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I don't, 32db attenuation and 6db SN ADSL+ and LLU. just 7Meg arrives after starting at over 13Meg. I expect I'll start complaining after a few months.

But hey, I'm happy(ish)


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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Thu 17-Mar-11 16:32:21
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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In reply to a post by normcall:
I don't, 32db attenuation and 6db SN ADSL+ and LLU. just 7Meg arrives after starting at over 13Meg.
What does this mean? Are you comparing sync with download speed?



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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Mar-11 16:38:40
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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I don't, 32db attenuation and 6db SN ADSL+ and LLU. just 7Meg arrives
But you are not on ADSL2+ LLU!
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
is ADSL1 IPStream!

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User toppoff
(newbie) Thu 17-Mar-11 16:43:06
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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How do if I know if my exchange is ADSL2 or ADSL2+ ?

All SAMKNOWS says is that it's LLU.

Adrian
Standard User baby_frogmella
(member) Thu 17-Mar-11 17:12:22
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Re: Thinking of moving to TalkTalk


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In reply to a post by toppoff:
How do if I know if my exchange is ADSL2 or ADSL2+ ?

All SAMKNOWS says is that it's LLU.

Adrian


Then you will be put on ADSL2+ smile
LLU = up to 24 meg smile
No LLU = up to 8 meg ie BT (spit) ipstream based frown

TalkTalk Plus LLU ADSL2+ connected @ 17515/1019 kbps
Attenuation 27db down / 9db up
Noise Margin 3.3 db down / 12db up
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Mar-11 17:15:42
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BT isn't LLU by definition! LLU is where other ISPs put their own kit in BT's exchanges.

BT do 2 flavours of ADSL; ADSL1 20CN IPstream (which you seem to be on) and ADSL2+ 21CN WBC. See if SamKnows says your exchange is 21CN enabled and, even then, it's up to BT whether they put you in it.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU BB => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU BB
Standard User DannyD12
(regular) Thu 17-Mar-11 19:09:49
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I think there's some confusion between posters in this thread!
Standard User Jack_Hackett
(knowledge is power) Thu 17-Mar-11 20:21:56
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In reply to a post by toppoff:
I'm a heavy user - between 100-1500GB per month. It's all Usenet - mainly between midnight and 9am.


Talk Talk’s policy towards Fair Usage is that Customers should be able to use the Service in an appropriate manner to meet their needs. A very small number of Customers use an excessive amount of the network bandwidth at peak times, to the extent that it can impair the performance of others. We therefore have a fair usage policy, which is designed to ensure your Service is fast and reliable 24 hours a day. This only involves monitoring the amount Customers download and managing non-time critical traffic on our network, such as Bittorrent or other Peer-to-Peer sharing applications. If Customers usage is continually either excessive, unfair, inappropriate, affects other users enjoyment of our broadband Service, or is not consistent with the usage we would typically expect on the Customers current package, we reserve the right to upgrade customers to a package more suited for their usage or, in extreme cases, suspend or terminate their ability to access Talk Talk broadband. We also manage the use of file sharing applications as these services often involve huge files being uploaded and downloaded, which can cause network problems and for Customers Internet Service to be slower than normal. Currently, TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on Bittorrent or other file sharing activity between midnight and 3pm. At peak times, however some TalkTalk Customers can still use those services but they may find Bittorrent or file sharing is a little slower as we limit the amount of this traffic to ensure we can maintain a high quality Internet service for all our Customers. However, all TalkTalk Customers have no restrictions on time-critical web traffic such as surfing, gaming, streaming content from applications like BBC iPlayer or using VOIP packages like Skype at any time.
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