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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(member) Tue 26-Sep-17 15:43:47
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Monitoring my HTTP, i.e. doing stuff like looking for malware type traffic patterns, this takes some time and can have varying effects depending on the PC, software and how busy OS is.

With HTTPS it is possible that if the end point is considered trusted less intrusive checking is done, since you have an encrypted tunnel.

Another option is HTTP may be being intercepted by an ISP proxy cache and this is causing issues, but for HTTPS the proxy cache is bypassed. The test is configured to have all the parameters set to so browsers bypass caching, but with transparent proxy caches this is not always the case.



Thanks, i have looked into it and the last part of the quote below "Bandwidth throttling and tethering detection" makes interesting reading it would seem any ISP's using it can throttle customers connections is there a way of proving this?


Why do they use transparent proxies?

They can cache incoming web data, This is one of the benefits of a proxy cache. This allows your ISP to save a huge amount of bandwidth while serving the requested cached data much faster.

They can force users to use your proxy, allowing password checking,web filtering, and other functions. - Yes, they can see what you are doing and act upon it, for example they can limit your download speed if their proxy server sees that you are downloading an mp3 file.

On the fly image optimization - Ive seen this on some ISPs where they automatically compress the requested images to save bandwidth. This is good for mobile users since you will only download less data but there are instances where the image is totally compressed to the point that you really can not see the image anymore.

They can allocate your traffic to go out other gateways aside from your default, without needing to use load-balancing software or BGP.

Bandwidth throttling and tethering detection - They can also use this to throttle your internet connection and detect if you are tethering your mobile internet connection.

http://www.pdproxy.com/blog/is-your-isp-using-a-tran...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Sep-17 16:08:39
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Tethering detection only applies to mobile broadband providers i.e. 3G or 4G services not fixed line broadband

The behaviours you are seeing are not indicative of throttling either, you currently have so many variables at play that any firm conclusion without a lot more effort from people visiting and testing known hardware or taking your hardware to a well known connection is impossible.

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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(member) Tue 26-Sep-17 18:24:20
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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The behaviours you are seeing are not indicative of throttling either, you currently have so many variables at play that any firm conclusion without a lot more effort from people visiting and testing known hardware or taking your hardware to a well known connection is impossible.


Thanks.

Would using your test files be a more accurate test, i have ran the top 4 and got these times.

Test Files - https://www.thinkbroadband.com/download


100 MB = 31 seconds

200 MB = 1:04

512 MB = 2:31

1 GB = 4:38

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Edited by Chippy_Tea_ (Tue 26-Sep-17 18:24:52)


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 26-Sep-17 18:50:10
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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The test files are another option you can use

Your figures are

25.8 Mbps
25 Mbps
27.1 Mbps
28.77 Mbps

The longer time periods may smooth out the variations you've been seeing, and as I've said before if we did not show the graph and just the burst speed you'd probably be as happy as Larry.

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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(member) Tue 26-Sep-17 19:05:09
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Thanks for changing the times into Mbps, to be honest a low figure of 25Mbps for small files and a high of 28Mbps for large ones will do for me, i am still getting an average of 27Mbps on Wi-fi sat in a different room to my router with two walls between us and as all the family use Wi-fi and only i use Ethernet i think we will be fine, i will keep an eye on my speeds and see how it goes.

Doesn't seem that long ago you would have started the 1 GB test file downloading and gone to watch a DVD before checking it was finished laugh

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Edited by Chippy_Tea_ (Tue 26-Sep-17 19:07:02)

Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 27-Sep-17 04:16:48
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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ispreview seems more up to date with tech andrew.

In the old days http was indeed faster than https.

However they using http/2 and even with https its often faster than http. (http/2 is https only as encryption is the future of the net).

So it might not be traffic inspection related.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 27-Sep-17 09:10:17
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Yes the ISPreview speed test is more up to date tech than the thinkbroadband one...

You do know who supplies the ISPreview speed test?

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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 27-Sep-17 12:58:30
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Is your day to day use of the internet affected at all?

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Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(member) Wed 27-Sep-17 15:58:12
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Re: Faster Fibre speed tests.


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Is your day to day use of the internet affected at all?


No but when i was getting 12Mbps on ADSL i rarely noticed any slow down even when my son was home using youtube, gaming etc, my point is if i could not get more than 24Mbps (i was guaranteed 35 Mbps) i may as well have stayed on ADSL and put up with a little extra time uploading pictures etc.

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Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 28-Sep-17 10:02:22
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if its yourself and its over http then why are you making other suggestions?

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