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Standard User iefbr14
(newbie) Tue 13-Nov-18 08:59:56
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Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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There are now dozens of posts on the TalkTalk Community Forums about users, almost exclusively Pipex (but the odd Homecall) email user receiving threatening blackmailing emails. We have infected your pc and have footage of you watching porn etc., payment in bitcoin is usually demanded.

Some of the emails received show account password, a very small number of users have said that the passwords are genuine, but very old (and/or no longer used).

The standard advice is (as a minimum) to change your email account password just in case. Most users are unable to do this themselves (because of the way the legacy accounts have been processed over the years) and a request to the TT community forum staff to have the password changed manually has to be made.

The "waiting list" for password changes has now reached 7 days - so a request sooner rather than later should be considered.

Iefbr14

Edited by iefbr14 (Tue 13-Nov-18 09:52:37)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 13-Nov-18 10:57:21
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
This is a widespread scam and not targeting old Pipex customers specifically

The lists of email and passwords appear to be fairly old

The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User iefbr14
(newbie) Tue 13-Nov-18 11:15:58
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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Yes I fully agree that it is a world wide, persistent and very nasty scam.

But on the TalkTalk forums virtually every single user involved is a Pipex customer. Not a single report of any TalkTalk.net users being effected. The incidence of reports from Pipex customers has increased very dramatically over the last few weeks.

As far as the TalkTalk "universe" is concerned Pipex is the principle (almost exclusive) target - so of all the TalkTalk and legacy user bases potentially the most at risk customers, which was why I thought it may be of benefit to any Pipex users reading the TalkTalk (and Pipex) section of this forum to be aware of this issue (especially as some users do use the same email address and password for years).

Forewarned is forearmed. A simple headsup to a known target audience.


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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 13-Nov-18 16:48:43
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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Easy fix for this, watch porn on your PS4 wink
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(committed) Tue 13-Nov-18 16:57:41
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: bobble_bob] [link to this post]
 
We have infected your pc and have footage of you watching porn etc., payment in bitcoin is usually demanded.


Anyone falling for that after all the reports of these types of scams doing the rounds really shouldn't be anywhere near a PC in the first place.

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Standard User pete_thomson
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 13-Nov-18 17:27:57
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
With 711 million email addresses on the comprised list, it's far from just Pipex users. It could well be that there was a breach of a Pipex database at some point.

You can check your own (and others) email address at www.haveibeenpwned.com and it'll tell your of your address has been found in the main dump or any of the other breaches that they know about.

Also Google "Onliner Spambot" and it'll bring up lots of stories of when it was first released around August 2017.

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Standard User gymno74
(newbie) Tue 13-Nov-18 17:28:02
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
Yes, definitely not confined to Pipex.

A Sky / Yahoo e-mail user reported the identical scam last wednesday:
https://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Email/Threatening-spam-...
Standard User iefbr14
(newbie) Tue 13-Nov-18 19:46:35
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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Yes - as I have previously said - I know this is not a specific Pipex only issue.

But I am a TalkTalk customer and on the TalkTalk community forums all the reports (and there are a lot of them at the moment) are from legacy email customers and virtually all of those are Pipex.

I am not and never have said this is a Pipex only problem, but the activity directed at Pipex customers at the moment seems to be at a significantly high and unusual level. Not a single report from any TalkTalk.net customer (on the forums as far as I can see).

Pipex are very much the current target as far as the TT customer base is concerned - so a little warning to be extra vigilant was I thought a reasonable step.

TalkTalk and Pipex users on these forums may not visit the TT community forums so may be unaware of this increased level of scamming activity.

Chippy_Tea_ - not everyone may be as IT literate as yourself, unfortunately not everyone is as IT literate as would be ideal. These scammers would not be in business if they weren't making money from somewhere, which would imply that some people are paying up.

Education is always the best defense against scammers - but if you aren't aware of the threats then you are vulnerable. But I have raised a flag and that is all I intended to do.
Standard User iefbr14
(learned) Tue 13-Nov-18 19:49:51
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: pete_thomson] [link to this post]
 
In reply to pete_thompson ……


"The truth is, your identity already has been stolen."

Frank Abagnale

Edited by iefbr14 (Tue 13-Nov-18 19:51:12)

Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Tue 13-Nov-18 19:53:05
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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I got one the other day saying i had missed a delivery, and to click on this link to enter my details so they could redeliver it. If you tried already, why do you need my address again? laugh

I read somewhere that they make these scams look as silly and fake as possible, so they know the people falling for them are gullible and open to more scams
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(committed) Wed 14-Nov-18 19:08:36
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by iefbr14:
Chippy_Tea_ - not everyone may be as IT literate as yourself, unfortunately not everyone is as IT literate as would be ideal. These scammers would not be in business if they weren't making money from somewhere, which would imply that some people are paying up.


I think they are just chancers and are probably making next to no money we still get the "we have found a problem with your PC" call occasionally i doubt there are many internet users left who haven't heard of that scam yet they keep plugging away, i guess like addicted gamblers they keep going as tomorrow they might find the one person left who hasn't heard of the scam and they finally get their big payday.
Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Wed 14-Nov-18 22:19:46
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
This is a widespread scam and not targeting old Pipex customers specifically

The lists of email and passwords appear to be fairly old


I agree with you there; in all probability anyone with an email address will eventually receive a similar email. Judgements are clouded with apparent consequences if action is not taken immediately and far from a few being taken in, there are probably thousands paying up. Then there is the shame factor coming into play by not seeking advice from a friend because you don't wish to admit that porn has been viewed.

If you have a nagging feeling that you need to research this matter with Google, what exactly would a novice user use a search term that would bring up a definitive response that doesn't set off a knee jerk response which in the majority of cases is completely unnecessary?


IMHO opinion the following is worth adhering to:
• NOT to pay out anything;
• In no circumstance NOT to respond to the (blackmail) email;
• Ensure your router and connected devices are fully patched;
• Switch to an anti-virus product that has a good reputation that does what it says on the tin;
• Deep scan the computer to remove nasties that WILL be found. To do this you may need to seek a source/organisation that will do the task for you. DIY tools are not good enough!
• Start to break away from using ISP provided email address(es).
• Use a password generator to create strong passwords.

Feel free to add to this listing
Standard User KelvinBridge
(regular) Wed 14-Nov-18 23:02:29
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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Might I suggest that those how want to watch porn learn how to make their own blind-fold >>


How to make a Blindfold - MaskCraft
www.maskcraft.com/how-to-make-a-blindfold/
Standard User M100
(regular) Thu 15-Nov-18 17:47:08
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
I received one too, the username and password quoted being what I last used at Pipex more than a decade ago (can't recall if it was just before or just after the Tiscali 'takeover' )

The last time I checked the Bitcoin account mentioned in the email has had numerous credits around the £850 mark and so some people appear to be paying up.
Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Thu 15-Nov-18 23:42:54
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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Scary how gullible people can be to these scams
Standard User bowdon
(committed) Fri 16-Nov-18 14:56:24
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: iefbr14] [link to this post]
 
I've had lots of these over the past few weeks.

There are two versions of the scam, one that is saying they have hacked your account and the other more recent one displays a password.

What is interesting is the emails are being sent to the default email we got from Pipex (the one with the random letters and numbers before the @ sign) and also to the name I custom set.

Both these emails as far as I know haven't been compromised. I checked them on the site someone listed earlier in the thread and nothing comes up.

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Standard User bluemoon87
(regular) Fri 16-Nov-18 15:32:53
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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it will be a system where that email and password combination has been used, possibly not registered that it has been compromised. In my case the password suggested in the email has no relation to pipex at all. Has made me realise it’s just time to close down that account.
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Tue 20-Nov-18 12:51:30
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


[re: Chippy_Tea_] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Chippy_Tea_:
In reply to a post by iefbr14:
Chippy_Tea_ - not everyone may be as IT literate as yourself, unfortunately not everyone is as IT literate as would be ideal. These scammers would not be in business if they weren't making money from somewhere, which would imply that some people are paying up.


I think they are just chancers and are probably making next to no money


Couldn't be further from the truth unfortunately.
These emails have bitcoin address links for £ to be sent to.
These are all publicly searchable.

A few of these have been posted over on kitz and every single bitcoin link I've checked has had multiple transactions, usually £800-£900 deposited at a time.

They wouldn't keep sending them if people didn't pay.
Standard User Chippy_Tea_
(committed) Wed 21-Nov-18 18:06:07
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Re: Pipex Blackmail Scam.


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In reply to a post by j0hn83:
In reply to a post by Chippy_Tea_:
In reply to a post by iefbr14:
Chippy_Tea_ - not everyone may be as IT literate as yourself, unfortunately not everyone is as IT literate as would be ideal. These scammers would not be in business if they weren't making money from somewhere, which would imply that some people are paying up.


I think they are just chancers and are probably making next to no money


Couldn't be further from the truth unfortunately.
These emails have bitcoin address links for £ to be sent to.
These are all publicly searchable.

A few of these have been posted over on kitz and every single bitcoin link I've checked has had multiple transactions, usually £800-£900 deposited at a time.

They wouldn't keep sending them if people didn't pay.


Oh well if they are stupid enough to pay before using google to search the subject of the scam they deserve everything they get.
Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Wed 21-Nov-18 19:20:56
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+1

It is a very cleverly worded email which is giving a nice income stream to one or more people. The chances of the benefices ever being caught is next to zero. I predict this scam is just going to keep running for several years.
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