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Standard User mandrake127
(newbie) Sun 26-Apr-15 11:31:49
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Windows 10


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Currently testing a Technical Preview version of Windows 10 my build 10061. I downloaded and installed tbbmeter purely as an experiment. It runs the automatic download test when it starts fine but there is no graphical indication at all on the display. It just stays blank.
It updated itself to Version 0.9.9.4. no problem but the result was the same.

I realise this is just an experiment but thought someone might like to hear any info about this.

For info I'm running this on a fairly old computer, ASRock H55M with a QuadCore Intel Core i7 2800mhz with onboard Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller network interface.

This post purely for info but would appreciate any advice that might help make it work.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 26-Apr-15 11:58:14
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Re: Windows 10


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Very likely we will simply say Windows 10 is not supported

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Standard User jickmoss
(newbie) Sat 18-Jul-15 08:48:29
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Standard User professor973
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 18-Jul-15 10:44:40
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Re: Windows 10


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You are well behind in builds. I have been running Windows 10 since the early builds and find it rock solid for some time now. I am on build 10166. If you go into Insider settings and set updates to 'fast', you will get the latest release as soon as available. Anyone running 7 or 8.1 will update to 10 so long as they install all Windows updates to trigger the free update. Running 3.4GHz quad i7 and 8Gb memory here.

Edited by professor973 (Sat 18-Jul-15 10:46:47)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 18-Jul-15 12:06:48
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Re: Windows 10


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OP was in April. Just the spammer woke up the thread.

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Standard User professor973
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 18-Jul-15 15:07:53
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I will wake up one day Lol
Standard User Commogwinto
(newbie) Mon 24-Aug-15 03:18:30
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Re: Windows 10


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Hi
I am new on here, just d/l tbb this morning. I have recently received u/g to Win 10, but cannot get tbb meter to work. Is there something I need to do in setting up tbb meter please?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 24-Aug-15 09:04:13
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Highly likely that driver changes may mean it will not work without a major rewrite

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Standard User Commogwinto
(newbie) Mon 24-Aug-15 23:37:53
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Thanks your prompt reply. Guess it is no good for me at the moment, I hope tbb are researching into this for future use with 10.
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Standard User mandrake127
(newbie) Sun 08-Nov-15 23:35:38
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Have now upgraded 3 PCs to Windows 10 from both 7 and 8. Tbb meter didn't work on my preview builds, but is working fine on the upgrades ! Also I'm still doing preview builds on one of them, and it continues to work ok.
Whatever the problem was, it appears to have gone away.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 09-Nov-15 09:35:26
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We have changed nothing, as we have been saying we suspect that some drivers were missing counters that are expected to be their, and manufacturers are adding them over time just like they did with Windows 8

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Standard User filbert42
(newbie) Mon 07-Dec-15 15:34:07
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Re: Windows 10


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Well I have upgraded my system to Windows 10. TBB meter was running on Win7 before the upgrade but now the empty window.

I can't see any menu entry for 'Types of Traffic to Display' so I can't try the Windows 8 fix.

Any chance of updating the FAQ to cover Windows 10? it's out there now...
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Feb-16 14:35:38
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I've just installed tbbMeter on Win 10, latest build 10586.104, to investigate something, but it also gives the empty window. I've set all Network Connections & done a Restart. Still nowt.

Does tbbMeter work on Win 10 or not?

I see no Types of Traffic to Display -> Disable TCP/UDP Monitoring. that's mentioned for Win 8.

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Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 28-Feb-16 14:58:49)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 28-Feb-16 14:59:20
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For some people yes, and for others not. i.e. depends on whether performance counters are supported by the network drivers.

Same happened with Windows 8 and got fixed without us doing anything for most devices.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Feb-16 15:11:06
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So what do I need to do to fix it? Are you saying just wait? All the relevant drivers seem up-to-date.

So now I can't recommend it to someone who's having BB discons issues.

Looks like I'll uninstall it & revert to NetMeter which I've relied for ages but keeps randomly crashing with Addy Violation since Win 8.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 28-Feb-16 15:30:13
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Not sure why you'd recommend a usage meter to people with disconnect problems anyway.

The issue is the network card driver writers have dumped previous supported options, just like they did in Windows 8 and are expected to do the same and add them back over time.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Feb-16 15:44:04
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It's a funny one. User reports hourly discons on his PC & mobile yet router stats & logs show no discons of BB. So I thought that installing a usage meter would show, or not, activity during the seemingly discon period.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 28-Feb-16 15:57:08
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Something doing inbound pinging to router (e.g. BQM) or outbound pinging should show this up, i.e. is it a local connectivity rather than broadband issue.

tbbMeter does have a ping mode, that will still work without the counter system.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Feb-16 23:23:18
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Yes, but he might just as well use the OS's ping rather than installing a program that may or may not work.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 28-Feb-16 23:30:50
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Make sure he is running on the shortest possible sampling interval, (7 seconds?), and with something like a 90-minute window. Also the vertical axis made zero at the bottom for both or at most 2dB negative on SNRM, and the top only fractionally above the maximum sensible. So giving maximum graphical sensitivity.

I found with anything less then a decline, disconnect, reconnect can fail to zero-spike and just look like a small change in margin and even quick-look no sync speed change, given the default sync speed scale.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 28-Feb-16 23:31:27)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Feb-16 23:38:17
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I'm not clear what program you are referring to? I've just recommended continuous ping.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 29-Feb-16 00:26:35
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I read "router stats" in your post to be referring to RouterStats or RouterStats Lite. Essential stats monitoring tools.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 29-Feb-16 00:34:34
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No, never had a use for them. Just plain old stats from a router.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 30-Jul-16 05:38:15
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Just reinstalled tbbMeter, having forgotten I tried it before, as I got fed up with NetMeter crashing all over the place & having to stop it manually.

I am happy to report that tbbMeter now works with the Win 8 fix of Disable TCP/UDP Monitoring smile

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Standard User Glenturret1775
(newbie) Wed 22-Feb-17 09:57:16
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Re: Windows 10


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Also for information: I am running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit (build 14393) and came back to try tbbmeter again for the first time since I was using Windows 8.1. Using the recommended setting for 8.1 (disable TCP/UDP monitoring), the meter works perfectly well for the machine on which it is installed. The meter and the collected data survive if I restart Windows but all are lost if (as I occasionally do) I leave Windows completely to play with Linux Mint. I then have to reinstall the meter and start collecting data from scratch.
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