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Standard User mbmessaoud
(newbie) Tue 22-Feb-11 10:56:12
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difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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Hi

I need to know about the difference and the meaning of these ADSL informations

UpstreamMaxRate, UpstreamCurrRate

DownstreamMAxRate, DownstreamCurrRate


Any comment is welcome

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Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 22-Feb-11 11:20:17
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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I'd guess the max rate is what your line is capable of doing. The current rate is the actual sync rate.

e.g. I'm on O2 LLU and pay for an up to 8 Mbps speed. My modem reports

US Connection Rate: 1123(kbps)
DS Connection Rate: 8188(kbps)

US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1123(kbps)
DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 18268 kbps
Standard User mbmessaoud
(newbie) Tue 22-Feb-11 14:18:19
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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I don't think that ADSL modem can know about the max rate that the line can support.

my idea is that maxrate is about the max rate that the modem can support

for example if a modem is ITU G.992.1 Annex A ===> UpstreamMaxRate = 1.3 Mbit/s , DownstreamMaxRate =12.0 Mbit/s

I want to confirm or infirm this

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Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 22-Feb-11 14:36:27
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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The modem "knows" the achievable data rate on a line by virtue of successfully transmitting/receiving at that rate. I think the rate is established during the "training" state which takes place when a modem is restarted or sync is lost.

My Netgear DG834G can sync higher on a better line. The reported max rate is what it can achieve currently on the current line. On a good line it must be capable of meeting the fastest sync for the ADSL2+ standard it claims to support.

Which modem are you using?
Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 22-Feb-11 14:37:05
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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It;s your routers interpretation of what the max speed is, this also changes frequently, i currently have an upstream sync slightly higher that the max rate, it's based on the current SNR level and other factors such as error rates, the values displayed are theoretical limits my downstream shows values of 21169 Kbps
with a sync of 18145 Kbps on a 3db snr

Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 22-Feb-11 14:43:24
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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In reply to a post by john2007:
I'd guess the max rate is what your line is capable of doing. The current rate is the actual sync rate.

e.g. I'm on O2 LLU and pay for an up to 8 Mbps speed. My modem reports

US Connection Rate: 1123(kbps)
DS Connection Rate: 8188(kbps)

US Max Attainable Bit Rate: 1123(kbps)
DS Max Attainable Bit Rate: 18268 kbps
Are you syncing on ADSL2+ ? if so i would say that you are capped at 8mbits, but if you wasn't you may get around 14.5mbit -15mb

Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 22-Feb-11 14:47:38
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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In reply to a post by mbmessaoud:
I don't think that ADSL modem can know about the max rate that the line can support.

my idea is that maxrate is about the max rate that the modem can support

for example if a modem is ITU G.992.1 Annex A ===> UpstreamMaxRate = 1.3 Mbit/s , DownstreamMaxRate =12.0 Mbit/s

I want to confirm or infirm this
Those max speeds you quoted are capped values , ADSL2+ Annex A can support speeds of at least 24mbits down (advertised as upto 24mb )and 1.6mbits up, but most isp's cap it to 1.3-1.4mbits for technical reasons

Edited by tommy45 (Tue 22-Feb-11 14:49:14)

Standard User john2007
(legend) Tue 22-Feb-11 15:02:27
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Re: difference between ADSL info MaxRate and CurrRate ?


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Yes, O2 LLU supports ADSL2+. As you say they cap it at (roughly) 8 Mbps for the product I'm on (legacy standard I guess).

For the first few days my speed tests showed 13000 kbps rather than the 6800 kbps I now get that I'm capped.
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 22-Feb-11 15:07:35
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my idea is that maxrate is about the max rate that the modem can support


nope. It's the assessment of the line capability and the service limitation of the DSLAM.

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Standard User krazykizza
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 22-Feb-11 15:11:59
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Basically, they mean taking into account perfect conditions and disregarding BRAS, the maximum your line can possibloy sync at. Of course your actual sync will be lower, but the best lines should only be about 15% lower. My one at home is about 82% downstream and 86% upstream.

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