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Standard User LoafPincher
(newbie) Sun 10-Feb-13 01:42:03
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Can i use my own router instead of BT HomeHub 3


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Hey all

about a month ago i was out of contract with orange and as my speeds had dropped to below 1mb, i wasted no time in requesting a MAC. Orange have always said that they did not limit my speeds yet when i joined them from BT, i was getting a rock steady 3.8mb. Over time my speed dropped as above. Anyway, oddly, as soon as my MAC had been emailed, my speed jumped almost overnight to 3.4mb and continued to climb back to 3.8mb, as tested on the BTW speedtester.

Anyway, i decided to join BT again, and i switched over about a week ago, all the while testing my speeds 3 times a day as i have for months, and they held steady at around 3.7mb, until tonight when i decided to plug my new BT Hub 3 in...... Speeds have dropped to 1.75mb. Anyways, i realize that it will take a few days to settle but already it says my IP profile is set at 2mb, which is a pile of [censored].

Just wondered if by switching back to my original Netgear router would make any difference, and even if not, wondered if anyone knows what settings i need to use?

thanks
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 10-Feb-13 12:07:27
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Re: Can i use my own router instead of BT HomeHub 3


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Sounds like the ADSL line is wandering around. ADSL lines while they settle into a range of speed usually never stop adapting to the line conditions.

You need to find the connection speed, attenuation and noise margin figures from the Home Hub and/or your netgear.

On long lines some modems cope better with the line conditions, and if we can see the line stats we can advice if you may gain from some tidying up of phone wiring in the property

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User LoafPincher
(newbie) Mon 11-Feb-13 13:38:47
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Re: Can i use my own router instead of BT HomeHub 3


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Hi MrSaffron

I did reply to this but it appears to have disappeared! Please find below details from my hub.


1. Product name: BT Home Hub
2. Serial number: +058720+NQ24802798
3. Firmware version: Software version 4.7.5.1.83.8.94.1.11 (Type A) Last updated 11/02/13
4. Board version: BT Home Hub 3.0A
5. ADSL uptime: 0 days, 00:53:44
6. Bandwidth: 448 / 3680
7. Data sent/received: 0.0 / 0.0
8. Broadband username: bthomehub@btbroadband.com
9. BT FON: No
10. Wireless network/SSID: BTHub3-89S7
11. Wireless connections: Enabled, (802.11 b/g/n (Recommended)) 20 MHz, WPS enabled
12. Wireless security: WPA and WPA2
13. Wireless channel: Automatic / 11
14. Firewall: Default
15. MAC Address: 7c:03:d8:17:f3:88
16. VPI/VCI: 0 / 38
17. Line profile: Interleaved
18. Software variant: -
19. Boot loader: -

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ADSL Line Status

Connection Information

Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 days, 00:54:15
Downstream: 3.594 Mbps
Upstream: 448 Kbps

ADSL Settings

VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type: Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up): 7.6 dB / 20.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 50.3 dB / 30.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.4 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 793924 / 20
CRC Events (Down/Up): 104209 / 23


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Ran a btspeedtest and it came back with 0.35mbps with a ping of 55ms just now.

thanks


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 11-Feb-13 13:53:03
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The 3.5Meg connection is below what you would expect for a 50dB attenuation line and there are signs that the noise margin is wandering around plus lots of errors which the interleaving is handling but back up the general picture that things are varying.

The IP profile is probably why your test results are so low, and with the old service you are on it takes between a day and five days for this figure to improve. You can check the IP Profile figure which is the important bit you need to follow links to http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/ and say yes and let the java app run

Then when complete click the further diagnostics button and with luck it will run.

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User LoafPincher
(newbie) Tue 12-Feb-13 12:37:39
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so these are the figures i ran just now from my hub

ADSL Line Status

Connection Information

Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 days, 01:37:32
Downstream: 3.281 Mbps
Upstream: 448 Kbps

ADSL Settings

VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.1 Annex A
Latency type: Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up): 6.7 dB / 20.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 50.3 dB / 30.0 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 19.3 dBm / 11.9 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 679599 / 44
CRC Events (Down/Up): 72543 / 38
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
HEC Events (Down/Up): 116514 / 48
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 36301 / 764


running speedtests from my test socket gave me:

download 0.03
upload 0.16
ping 81.5

reran the tests 10 minutes llater and got:

down; 2.27mb
up; 0.36
ping; 86.2

running the further diagnostic came back with

best effort; 2.45
dsl connection; 3.36 down, 0.45 up
ip profile 2.5

i've also run a noise test and that seems pretty quiet to me, only the faintest of hums but that could be anything in the house.

thanks
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 12-Feb-13 13:03:09
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Are those noise margin figures when using the test socket or your normal location?

If not, then try the test socket and leave the router there for a while to see if the speeds are more stable. if they are then time to do a bit of fiddling with the phone wiring

Andrew Ferguson, andrew@thinkbroadband.com
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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