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Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Sun 03-Feb-19 23:15:50
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Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Asus n56u and BT modem.
2 PS4's connected via lan using Lan adapters.
3 Iphones and a ipad using 5ghz signal.
2 laptops using 2.4ghz signal.

Now the problem I have is I get 42mb DL & 5.9bm UL speedtests for over 5 years on all devices wired or wireless. I have not moved the router from its position or added any new devices to it.

The router is on channel 13 for over 5 years as my neighbours are using ISP supplied routers and fight over 1,6,11.

Suddenly overnight all my 2.4ghz laptops started running slow to kpbs in speedtest and then shoot up to 42mb or sometimes start at 42mb and drop all the way down.

I've double checked surrounding wifi channels and no one is on my channel 13.

I even checked the iphones using the 2.4ghz and it the same, but work fine on 5ghz.

I contacted my ISP and they say all good on line and no faults show and telephone works fine.

So I decided to swap out the router with ISP's and it started off good, but eventually went downhill like the Asus n56u.

I could do with some help here, if anyone has experienced something similar.

Many thanks
Standard User mbames
(committed) Mon 04-Feb-19 12:32:44
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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If you are only seeing the issue on 2.4Ghz with the laptops, and have changed routers/Wifi APs, thenthe issue may be with the latops - are they both the same hardware spec?

What has changed on the laptop?
Driver updates
s/w Firewall
OS

Could you try a USB wifi adaptor on one of the laptops?

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 04-Feb-19 13:43:59
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Or a device is co-sharing the 2.4GHz spectrum now, e.g. neighbours wifi or some other device

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Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Mon 04-Feb-19 14:51:17
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Not just laptops, I put the ipad n iphone on 2.4ghz and does the same, Laptops different models and specs. Its All 2.4ghz problem no matter what device I use.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Mon 04-Feb-19 14:52:33
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Neighbours using 1,6,11, Ive got option for 13 and have been using it for years.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 04-Feb-19 14:58:15
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But have you looked what wireless connections are being made to your router is the question. Nothing to do with what other wireless SSIDs/routers are near you.

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Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Mon 04-Feb-19 16:43:53
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Only my devices are are on router, no change in years.

I use as stated in original post, mixture of 2.4ghz n 5ghz, Only 2 items are 2.4 and all others 5ghz. But for test purposes i switched between 5ghz to 2.4 to diagnosis. I hope thats what you were referring too.

Edited by jingerman (Mon 04-Feb-19 16:45:41)

Standard User JonRennie
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-19 17:19:39
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Channels 11 and 13 overlap by quite a large margin.

It could be that your neighbour(s) on channel 11 have added more devices or are just transferring more data.

wink Comms is hard wink
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-19 18:19:19
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Your choice of channel 13 will not be helping anybody:

https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/adjacent...
&
https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/why-chan...

I would use 1, 6 or 11. Given 13 is poor, try the opposite end of the spectrum e.g. Channel 1. Plenty of APs now only have the option to select 1, 6 and 11 as channel options as vendors have noted adjacent channel congestion is causing problems, and increasing returns etc.

You may get lucky using 13, as some APs will try to "avoid" using 11 once they realise there is adjacent channel congestion on 13, and revert back to 6 or 1. This naturally degrades performance overall. This probably explains your years on 13... APs are increasing in power however, and this behaviour is changing, where vendors realise their 7 antenna device will overpower post APs.

To check, you are using 20MHZ right?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Mon 04-Feb-19 19:11:28)

Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Mon 04-Feb-19 19:54:28
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Your choice of channel 13 will not be helping anybody:

https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/adjacent...
&
https://www.metageek.com/training/resources/why-chan...

I would use 1, 6 or 11. Given 13 is poor, try the opposite end of the spectrum e.g. Channel 1. Plenty of APs now only have the option to select 1, 6 and 11 as channel options as vendors have noted adjacent channel congestion is causing problems, and increasing returns etc.

You may get lucky using 13, as some APs will try to "avoid" using 11 once they realise there is adjacent channel congestion on 13, and revert back to 6 or 1. This naturally degrades performance overall. This probably explains your years on 13... APs are increasing in power however, and this behaviour is changing, where vendors realise their 7 antenna device will overpower post APs.

To check, you are using 20MHZ right?


Yes 20mhz, i changed it from 20/40. still no joy
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 04-Feb-19 21:36:43
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Have you tried the router on AUTO?

A fixed channel is not a great idea in today's climate where we have Bluetooth keyboard, baby monitors, headphones (Apple AirPods, beats x etc), mice, etc which all use 2.4Ghz.

Check out 1 and 6...See how you get on.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Mon 04-Feb-19 21:44:31
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In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Have you tried the router on AUTO?

A fixed channel is not a great idea in today's climate where we have Bluetooth keyboard, baby monitors, headphones (Apple AirPods, beats x etc), mice, etc which all use 2.4Ghz.

Check out 1 and 6...See how you get on.


Gonna do that now. thanks
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 14:54:47
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In reply to a post by jingerman:
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Have you tried the router on AUTO?

A fixed channel is not a great idea in today's climate where we have Bluetooth keyboard, baby monitors, headphones (Apple AirPods, beats x etc), mice, etc which all use 2.4Ghz.

Check out 1 and 6...See how you get on.


Gonna do that now. thanks

It chose channel 13 in auto. lol
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 17:09:59
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Odd, devices do not typically do that...

Pop it on 1 or 6 manually.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 22:33:42
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Odd, devices do not typically do that...

Pop it on 1 or 6 manually.


Then it will be same as 8 surrounding channels.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:11:02
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& right now you have co channel congestion as you are using 13 which "overlaps" with 11. The only channels you should opt for are 1, 6 or 11. Most devices follow this rule.

Since 13 is performing poorly, it indicates 11 is likely to also be poor since they are overlapping channels. Hence, let's try to move away from 11. The only way to do that is 1 of 6.

Having several WiFi points on the same channel is how the specification is designed. Performance is best when all Wi-fi routers use 1, 6 and 11.

I have 30+ APs in range of my office, all except 1 is on 1 6 and 11. Works acceptably.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:19:09
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& right now you have co channel congestion as you are using 13 which "overlaps" with 11. The only channels you should opt for are 1, 6 or 11. Most devices follow this rule.

Since 13 is performing poorly, it indicates 11 is likely to also be poor since they are overlapping channels. Hence, let's try to move away from 11. The only way to do that is 1 of 6.

Having several WiFi points on the same channel is how the specification is designed. Performance is best when all Wi-fi routers use 1, 6 and 11.

I have 30+ APs in range of my office, all except 1 is on 1 6 and 11. Works acceptably.


I'll stick it on 6 first.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:22:44
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Heres my log from router showed red !

Feb 4 09:22:46 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered disabled state
Feb 4 09:22:47 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered listening state
Feb 4 09:23:02 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered learning state
Feb 4 09:23:17 kernel: br0: topology change detected, propagating
Feb 4 09:23:17 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered forwarding state
Feb 4 09:24:51 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered disabled state
Feb 4 09:24:53 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered listening state
Feb 4 09:25:08 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered learning state
Feb 4 09:25:23 kernel: br0: topology change detected, propagating
Feb 4 09:25:23 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered forwarding state
Feb 4 09:45:02 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered disabled state
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch1 bssid=80:26:89:71:52:a2
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch1 bssid=0c:f9:c0:63:d7:06
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch1 bssid=f4:8e:92:08:55:94
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=52:0d:10:9d:0c:61
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=b8:a1:75:32:26:4f
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=24:20:c7:61:bb:fc
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=c0:05:c2:99:6b:09
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=40:0d:10:9d:0c:61
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=24:a7:dc:55:c8:fa
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch6 bssid=d2:05:c2:99:6b:09
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch11 bssid=48:d3:43:ef:52:b1
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ch11 bssid=5a:d3:43:ef:52:b1
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: =====================================================
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 1 : Dirty = 210, False CCA = 181, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 2 : Dirty = 236, False CCA = 680, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 3 : Dirty = 252, False CCA = 40, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 4 : Dirty = 268, False CCA = 54, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 5 : Dirty = 284, False CCA = 421, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 6 : Dirty = 490, False CCA = 147, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 7 : Dirty = 264, False CCA = 155, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 8 : Dirty = 244, False CCA = 86, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 9 : Dirty = 224, False CCA = 35, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 10 : Dirty = 204, False CCA = 170, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 11 : Dirty = 140, False CCA = 150, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 12 : Dirty = 64, False CCA = 80, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Channel 13 : Dirty = 56, False CCA = 70, Busy Time = 0, Skip Channel = FALSE
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: =====================================================
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Rule 1 CCA value : Min Dirtiness ==> Select Channel 13
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: Min Dirty = 56
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: ExChannel = 9 , 0
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: BW = 40
Feb 4 09:45:06 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered listening state
Feb 4 09:45:21 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered learning state
Feb 4 09:45:36 kernel: br0: topology change detected, propagating
Feb 4 09:45:36 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered forwarding state
Feb 4 10:05:06 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: Enabled, IPoE/PPPoE offload [WAN]<->[LAN/WLAN]
Feb 4 10:05:06 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: IPv4 UDP flow offload - OFF
Feb 4 10:06:36 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: Enabled, IPoE/PPPoE offload [WAN]<->[LAN/WLAN]
Feb 4 10:06:36 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: IPv4 UDP flow offload - OFF
Feb 4 11:12:54 NTP Client: Synchronizing time to time.nist.gov.
Feb 4 11:13:17 NTP Client: System time changed, offset: 1.211313s
Feb 4 20:29:57 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: Enabled, IPoE/PPPoE offload [WAN]<->[LAN/WLAN]
Feb 4 20:29:57 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: IPv4 UDP flow offload - OFF
Feb 5 09:59:36 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: Enabled, IPoE/PPPoE offload [WAN]<->[LAN/WLAN]
Feb 5 09:59:36 RT-N56U: Hardware NAT/Routing: IPv4 UDP flow offload - OFF
Feb 5 11:12:56 NTP Client: Synchronizing time to pool.ntp.org.
Feb 5 11:12:58 NTP Client: System time changed, offset: 1.214913s
Feb 5 11:19:51 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered disabled state
Feb 5 11:19:52 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered listening state
Feb 5 11:20:07 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered learning state
Feb 5 11:20:22 kernel: br0: topology change detected, propagating
Feb 5 11:20:22 kernel: br0: port 3(rai0) entered forwarding state
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:27:59
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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...

Since changing to ch 6

I always usually get 40+mb n 5.9 ul. but its crippling as you can see.

Edited by jingerman (Tue 05-Feb-19 23:29:30)

Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:37:36
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Great... if everyone took your approach and used overlapping channels throughout would grind to a halt much quicker.

The issue in basic terms is WiFi bonds together multiple channels to get faster speeds...

channel 1 overlaps with 2 and 3.

6 overlaps with 4,5,7,8

11 overlaps with 9,10,12,13

When you have 3 devices on channel 11, they try to work nicely together by "waiting" between transmissions for the other APs transmissions to complete.

However if you have 2 devices on 11 and 1 on channel 13, the 2 devices on 11 try to work nicely together, however the device on 13 is not "seen." Hence the device on 13 will transmit at the same time as devices on 11, packets will collide in the air and not reach the destination (eg laptop phone etc).

The packet will require being resent, hence now there is twice as much wireless traffic as the packet is retransmitted. If it collides again, that's 3x etc. Eventually everything grinds to a halt as data is just retransmitted over and over, never getting where it needs.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:40:42
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Just choose the best of 1,6 and 11. There's nothing more you can do.

The long term solution is to ensure future devices are 5GHz.

2.4GHz performance is not great, I am in London and even at home I have excessive interference. It's common to see speeds below 10Mbps in busy populated areas on 2.4GHz.

Give 1 a go, as it's furthest from 13 where you were having issues.

EDIT: What AP are you using? ISP kit?

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 05-Feb-19 23:42:03)

Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:40:51
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https://www.thinkbroadband.com/_assets/speedtest/but...


Channel 1
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:47:54
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Asus rt-n56 with bt modem, tried plusnet hub, usless
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:48:34
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Is it possible your device is failing?

It would be odd for interference to be across the whole 2.4g band.

Got an ISP device you can pop in just for a troubleshoot?

How far away is the router? What if you stand next to it?
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:53:12
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thanks for everyones support, I'm going to quit 2.4 n buy 5ghz adapter or lan adapter n run it off Ethernet.

Take a loss on this.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:54:32
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Fair, I would personally pick the best Speedtest on 1 6 or 11 and see how you go.

I can't say my Speedtests are very good. Usually 11PM is the worst speeds I get, which is common as users head to bed and stream on iPads etc.

On 2.4 I vary from almost no throughout (like struggle for a 320P video) to 50Mbps...

I do live in a new-ish build block of flats however. The way the flats are setup I pickup everyone's AP on my floor with strong signal (4 other flats) and upstairs is quite strong too.

I have got everything other than a printer and a tv on 5Ghz now... although I do need to get around to splitting the SSIDs as devices often stick on my 2.4. The smarthub type b seems to do some sort of band steering close up.

EDIT: great shout on the 5GHZ adapter front!

Edited by ukhardy07 (Tue 05-Feb-19 23:55:16)

Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Tue 05-Feb-19 23:55:37
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
Is it possible your device is failing?

It would be odd for interference to be across the whole 2.4g band.

Got an ISP device you can pop in just for a troubleshoot?

How far away is the router? What if you stand next to it?


Tried plusnet hub and it does same thing, all ok on 5ghz but overnight a week ago 2.4ghz flopped intermittently, for the 1st time in years.

Got 6 virgin isp's around me, varying from 1,6,11, but my rssi is lowest at 61 n nearest is 66.

Edited by jingerman (Wed 06-Feb-19 00:02:02)

Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Wed 06-Feb-19 01:36:41
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It is hard to say with any absolute certainty...

Virginmedia speeds can be 300Mbps, but often more like 100Mbps. Even then, one AP has the ability to saturate the whole 2.4GHz channel if a user is downloading.

Older VM hubs used to split the 2.4 and 5GHz SSID by default, and users would opt into 5GHz as it was faster. Since the Hub 3, they now have same SSID, and hence most users fall into 2.4GHz...

It could be as simple as a couple of users have upgraded to the latest VM Hub, and now many more users are on 2.4GHz... It could also be something entirely unrelated e.g. a cheap baby monitor on 2.4GHz that someone purchased.

Most likely it is a combination of things.
Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Wed 06-Feb-19 11:42:19
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If you get chance run inssider - it lets you see visually the channels in use by APs and the overlaps of channels. It can be quite useful for choosing a channel.

https://www.metageek.com/products/inssider/free/

It also makes you realise how 5Ghz overlap is likely to be a problem soon smile

Edited by ukhardy07 (Wed 06-Feb-19 11:42:51)

Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Wed 06-Feb-19 12:55:26
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
If you get chance run inssider - it lets you see visually the channels in use by APs and the overlaps of channels. It can be quite useful for choosing a channel.

https://www.metageek.com/products/inssider/free/

It also makes you realise how 5Ghz overlap is likely to be a problem soon smile


Yes got inssider, n 5ghz will definitely be next.

By the way my neighbours moved in recently and I can hear baby crying. Your theory of baby monitor might be spot on. I cannot tell them to turn it off ?
Standard User gary333
(newbie) Wed 06-Feb-19 14:20:07
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[re: jingerman] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jingerman:
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
If you get chance run inssider - it lets you see visually the channels in use by APs and the overlaps of channels. It can be quite useful for choosing a channel.

https://www.metageek.com/products/inssider/free/

It also makes you realise how 5Ghz overlap is likely to be a problem soon smile


Yes got inssider, n 5ghz will definitely be next.

By the way my neighbours moved in recently and I can hear baby crying. Your theory of baby monitor might be spot on. I cannot tell them to turn it off ?


Baby monitors can certainly cause a reduction in performance. I have one of the BT camera ones that appears to cause slow downs on devices that are at the furthest reaches of the house when it's on and in a certain position. However, this is no different to when next door moved their routers location (signal went from 1 bar to 4 bars) and I would see drops or slow reactions at certain times on 2.4ghz network.

Obviously you cannot tell them to turn it off as it's their house to do as they please and you don't have a right to owning the airwaves in your own house. You could however overpower their signal by putting the mesh network devices around your house.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Wed 06-Feb-19 16:43:08
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In reply to a post by gary333:
In reply to a post by jingerman:
In reply to a post by ukhardy07:
If you get chance run inssider - it lets you see visually the channels in use by APs and the overlaps of channels. It can be quite useful for choosing a channel.

https://www.metageek.com/products/inssider/free/

It also makes you realise how 5Ghz overlap is likely to be a problem soon smile


Yes got inssider, n 5ghz will definitely be next.

By the way my neighbours moved in recently and I can hear baby crying. Your theory of baby monitor might be spot on. I cannot tell them to turn it off ?


Baby monitors can certainly cause a reduction in performance. I have one of the BT camera ones that appears to cause slow downs on devices that are at the furthest reaches of the house when it's on and in a certain position. However, this is no different to when next door moved their routers location (signal went from 1 bar to 4 bars) and I would see drops or slow reactions at certain times on 2.4ghz network.

Obviously you cannot tell them to turn it off as it's their house to do as they please and you don't have a right to owning the airwaves in your own house. You could however overpower their signal by putting the mesh network devices around your house.


Would it be cheaper buy 5ghz usb adapters from china? only 2 devices use 2.4
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Sun 10-Feb-19 14:38:52
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Neighbours with baby moved out, so I can forget that theory. frown
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Sun 10-Feb-19 16:17:26
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Neighbours with baby moved out, so I can forget that theory. frown


IMO using channel 13 while your neighbors use 11 is more likely to cause issues than someone using a baby monitor.
I get zero issues with a baby monitor in use.
Standard User jingerman
(newbie) Wed 13-Feb-19 11:33:58
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Re: Wifi Dropped only on.2.4GHz, 5ghz working Fine.


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Update:- I have resolved my 2.4ghz wifi issues by plastering tin foil on walls surrounding my router. I hope this will help others.
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