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Standard User mandarinka
(newbie) Sat 24-Nov-12 21:45:17
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Does VM have any kind of Usenet or News server?


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I would NEVER have voluntarily got Virgin Media but I am stuck in a building where this is the only permitted option. First discovery, Pirate Bay is censored.

This inspired me to finally check out Newsgroups/Usenet as a source of downloads so was womdering; is there a Usenet server? It's not in the "for dummies" startup material, googling it brings me to some sites from a few years back saying that VM has a great news server?

Does anyone have info or some fresh links?

Edited by mandarinka (Sat 24-Nov-12 21:46:55)

Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Sat 24-Nov-12 22:46:55
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news.virginmedia.com
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Nov-12 09:24:15
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In reply to a post by mandarinka:
Pirate Bay is censored.

I think most major ISPs were forced into this some time back. The circumvention if you must use the site is simple enough and can be found with a quick search.

Both NNTP and torrents are subject to traffic management during part of the day on VM and that is documented in their traffic management pages

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.contr...

In reply to a post by mandarinka:
Does anyone have info or some fresh links?


https://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=virgin...

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.contr...

Edited by kwikbreaks (Sun 25-Nov-12 09:28:53)


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Standard User mandarinka
(newbie) Sun 25-Nov-12 14:13:54
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Re: Does VM have any kind of Usenet or News server?


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Thanks for the tips I received via PM smile

As for who is blocking TPB: It's actually only the BIG ISPs, not all of them. Which is kind of creepy. Particularly with Virgin you are not surprised, after all, the Virgin group also owns a record label and other business that use copyright.

Anyway - I return from abroad and find that the UK started censoring. What's next!

I don't know how to setup Usenet for downloading material, so I'll have a go soon and report back how it works with Virgin.
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 25-Nov-12 21:13:05
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I don't know what tips you received by PM but mine would be that the simplest way by far to avoid slow downloads is to avoid using protocols which are subject to shaping by VM. Apart from the standard volume based traffic management there is no protocol based limitation imposed on http or ftp downloads.
Standard User Daemon66
(learned) Mon 26-Nov-12 09:41:58
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Please do not confuse a restriction on illegal activity that harms other people with censorship, that is a whole different ball game, even if the mechanism used for one could be used for the other.
Too often criminals hide behind the 'It's censorship of the Internet' banner. I am wholly opposed to any form of censorship, but I support the right of artists to be rewarded for their work.

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Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Mon 26-Nov-12 16:46:32
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So do I - but hearing about famous bands (like coldplay) who made 35p from having 33136 plays on their song Paradise on Spotify makes me actually wonder if it's harming them either way. The fact my music is legal is not really an issue for them.


(source = Spotify admitted this on a thread on their forum)
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Mon 26-Nov-12 16:48:03
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In reply to a post by kwikbreaks:
I don't know what tips you received by PM but mine would be that the simplest way by far to avoid slow downloads is to avoid using protocols which are subject to shaping by VM. Apart from the standard volume based traffic management there is no protocol based limitation imposed on http or ftp downloads.


no limitation just slow speeds

It was from me. I advised to use a free VPN to get the torrent files he wants .
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 26-Nov-12 18:58:28
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and you think a free VPN will deliver high speeds?
Standard User pcoventry76
(knowledge is power) Tue 27-Nov-12 09:43:58
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No - you missed the point

Using the free VPN he can get onto the sites he wants to get the files he wants - then download as usual on connection
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