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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 30-Jan-17 22:05:51
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Re: My take on virgin media


[re: arronlowley] [link to this post]
 
No I don't....

You may not be aware of this bit dslreports many threads in an attempt to swamp congestion, as does steam and Ookla use a couple more, so will usually give better results.

Feel free to ignore our test that tends to show up congestion issues at an earlier stage.

None of the tests seemed to hit the 300 Mbps mark, suggesting what you are looking at is variations in how they report average speed, e.g. mode, median, mean and report fast/slow samples and number of threads used for the testing.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 30-Jan-17 22:07:28
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Re: My take on virgin media


[re: arronlowley] [link to this post]
 
So you are complaining that your virgin media service is slow, and then moaning our test is show too slow a speed, when using a counter example of a tester that is designed to try and not show congestion issues, hence why providers will often send you to the polka test

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Standard User arronlowley
(learned) Mon 30-Jan-17 23:30:50
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[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
All I'm saying is the tbb Speedtest was miles apart from the other two, it never ever gives me 300Mbps when I do one, not even at 6am in the morning, I don't get how steam can lie about your download speed.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 31-Jan-17 00:18:07
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Re: My take on virgin media


[re: arronlowley] [link to this post]
 
And when an isp or bit of local network is having congestion issues that is to be fully expected.

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Standard User leexgx
(committed) Tue 31-Jan-17 03:25:01
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Re: My take on virgin media


[re: arronlowley] [link to this post]
 
i agree that VM is very bad for ping jitter and at peak times some areas of the network (at street level) are slow

thinkbroadband speed test is more realistic of what your getting (90-100mb/s is Normal for single threaded downloads and 200-300 on multithreaded tends to be limited by that speed your paying for in my case 200mb which is in fact 220mb profile so speed tests manage to report 200-210mb/s)

ignoring others on why using wifi for speed tests is not going to give you correct results overall unless your using a speed test that uses very high conenction rate to force a good speed test result (as i read the other replys you seem to not like it) but if ping is high then your going to have problems (use https://f8lure.mouselike.org and http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping to monitor your connection as Virgin uses a Semi static IP as in it Never changes unless you been offline for more then week i bealve or the MAC address changes witch norm should not happen)

a high jitter VM conenction (annoying for gaming on)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/d691424d9db...
diferant area on VM
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/31c1a23163b...
a normal FTTC connection (no jitter, the sudden Spikes are Normal activity when sending large emails and backups)
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/c6931e17ada...

on Virgin norm its the Upload congestion that is causing the issues not download (as that is rate controlled at the FTTN node) upload basically gets or tries to get a free slot so it can send data and can result in poor download speeds at times when upstream utilization is past 60-70% (VM upstream is like wifi if to many are using it it falls apart in retry sending data of death and you end up with high ping and packet loss)

half of my street whent back onto BT or SKY (1-4mb) when Stupid india CS people at virgin was increasing pepole packages when they complained that there internet was slow which made the problem worse as they got more upload speed as well witch made the congestion even worse (really wish VIrgin would lower every ones upload speed profile in a area where upload congestion is very high until they add more cards or split the FTTN cab or be more) we have FTTC here at last so i am considering on moving to it (even though i only get 30-40mb and 5mb upload)

Standard User leexgx
(committed) Tue 31-Jan-17 03:48:25
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[re: arronlowley] [link to this post]
 
but in your case it does look like they have ran out of capacity on the download side

That or your wifi is messing the results up and upload is still 20mb) as your not hitting 250mb-300mb that often and thinkbroadband speed test results you posted look more like local limits due to the curve (most likely due to wifi)

my 200/12mb connection (actual is 220/12 profile as Virgin give you 10% more download capacity, on 300mb you should have 330mb)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...
above was done around 3am (around 6PM it is a tad different result)
you see how my 1x is completely flat at 100mb this is normal, you should see the same but your getting a curve on your results probably from the wifi (note virgin norm its around 80-100mb on signal threaded downloads, steam and some download mangers will go up to 10 or whatever the server connection count limit is to get fastest download speeds)

(Note it uses 24 download streams to get this result so no surprised it gets good result)
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/9776091

i assume it uses high conenction count as well (expected reuslt due to the way it does the test)
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6011937738

Edited by leexgx (Tue 31-Jan-17 03:49:11)

Standard User AndyHCZ
(committed) Tue 31-Jan-17 08:34:29
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"its never correct"

What does that even mean? You don't like the result so it's not 'correct'?
Standard User Ignitionnet
(knowledge is power) Tue 31-Jan-17 09:20:17
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[re: AndyHCZ] [link to this post]
 
Not sure how multiple flows will overcome wireless limitations?

Must be imagining my laptop pulling files from my home server at 50MB+/s wirelessly.
Standard User nemeth782
(committed) Tue 31-Jan-17 11:23:40
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Re: My take on virgin media


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In reply to a post by arronlowley:
i dont need to test it wired, i have done this many times, wired for me makes 0 difference, dont care what anyone says, my wireless is fine.

as i have said like twice, before december, i had 300/20 all day every day on wireless.


Strange how your R7000 in tests only achieves 165mbit downlink on 5GHz on average.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/b...

The MAXIMUM downlink is enough for you to see 300mbit.

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/router/b...

So I'd expect to see exactly what you are seeing over wireless. At some times you manage to hit 300mbit, at other times you're at 130-160mbit.

Times of maximum utilisation correspond to times of maximum interference and spectrum congestion, so until you do this all wired, you CANNOT be certain what the issue is.

Edited by nemeth782 (Tue 31-Jan-17 11:25:52)

Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 31-Jan-17 11:54:30
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Re: My take on virgin media


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Download a big file and time it with a stopwatch or online stopwatch.

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