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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 05-Dec-16 12:06:50
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Re: Trying to place an order for fibre 78 with Vodafone...


[re: wy2k] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by wy2k:
what is UPNP do I need it on to use my phone etc on wi-fi? or anything connected via network cable?
Keep it enabled it's designed to enable port forwarding when it is required. Devices such as webcams commonly need to have port forwarding to enable access remotely.

Things such as skype often forward ports as well via UPNP.
Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Mon 05-Dec-16 13:40:12
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UPNP is universal plug 'n play and it automatically opens ports for cameras or things like torrents etc. I usually manually port forward in the router. It is a setting on the router - it is in Settings -> cofiguration and scroll down towards the bottom of the page, there is a switch to turn it on or off. You need to select expert mode first in the drop down box (top right).

BT -> Zen -> F2S -> Bulldog -> Be* -> BT Infinity 2 -> Plusnet Unlimited Fibre Extra -> Vodafone 76
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Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Mon 05-Dec-16 19:20:43
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See the section "Access from the Internet" on Wikipedia

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 05-Dec-16 20:55:24
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I do agree UPNP is not great security but in the home environment it has a place.
Also we should not be using NAT as a security measure, UPNP is not a firewall feature.
Users do not want to setup manual port forwarding.
Disabling UPNP will cause more issues than it is worth for most users.

Specific to the UPNP used on a Vodafone home router can you specify the vulnerabilities affecting it?
Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Mon 05-Dec-16 21:37:18
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
I can use UPNP within my home network without having it enabled on my router. Configuring port forwarding to access a camera is really not that difficult. The vunerabilities of a vodafone router with UPNP switched on were outlined in an earlier post. I am not a customer so I don't have one of their routers. I may become a customer next August when my Plusnet free ADSL broadband deal expires.

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Standard User ukhardy07
(knowledge is power) Mon 05-Dec-16 22:21:44
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Might get one to try it out. I'm a penetration tester so fairly interested in this.

Port forwarding isn't that difficult but when a family has 2 phones each (work and personal), tablets, work laptops and personal laptops, a few ps4s etc all of which might require ports forwarding e.g. for FaceTime, games and Skype it becomes a bit of a headache.

Things like Skype will still work without UPNP but they're likely to perform much worse.

Lookup TCP hole punching when you get a free moment.
The central idea of your post is, disabling UPNP to protect your network.
Does NAT protect a network? The answer is no because it isn't its purpose.
I still strongly recommend against disabling UPNP for most home owners.
BT Talktalk Plusnet Sky Vodafone and virginmedia all have it enabled out of the box for a reason.
Standard User Michael_Chare
(experienced) Tue 06-Dec-16 01:02:30
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It depends what use you make of you internet connection. In my household we don't play games and hardly use Skype. Security is an important issue. The more difficult you make remote access the better, as there are far to many people with nefarious ambitions.

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Standard User wy2k
(committed) Wed 07-Dec-16 17:51:19
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apperantly this error and username / password error is to do with not having a service that is live yet
Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Dec-16 10:20:06
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Yes, it would seem to be the case, mine is now working. I think that Vodafone need to update their website including the sign-up page, as there it suggests that you can follow the order progress on 'My Vodafone'.

BT -> Zen -> F2S -> Bulldog -> Be* -> BT Infinity 2 -> Plusnet Unlimited Fibre Extra -> Vodafone 76
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Standard User wy2k
(committed) Thu 08-Dec-16 13:44:49
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how are you finding there broadband so far,did you go for fibre 38 or 78?
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