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Standard User sallust
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 12:23:43
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Need 8 static ips, LLUs=AOL,Be,C&W,CPW,Orange,Sky,Tiscali


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Hello. I am currently with O2 LLU on the basic 8Mb/s package (the old one, with no bandwidth cap).

In many ways, this suits me fine, especially for the price, but I am looking around for an ISP that can offer me 8 static (ipv4) ips (not sure, but might settle for 4).

Would also like a decent network (i.e. good uptime, low latency, no discriminatory shaping, no protocol inspection or filtering, tolerable minimum speeds 24/7). I can live with a cap, but would ideally like a biggish one (say, min of 40 GB), even if in practice I haven't historically often used very much data.

One of my intended uses is VOIP.

Looking at Samknows, I see I have the following LLU providers:
AOL
Be/O2
C&W
CPW/TalkTalk
Orange
Sky
Tiscali

I also have Virgin cable available. FTTC is due Autumn 2011.

My line can only support about 8.5 Mb/s, as far as I can tell (no extensive testing with different equipment and so on). This was established when a BT engineer came round a few months ago to sort out a wiring problem, although I did not observe how the engineer carried out the test.

I have looked at a few of the small ISPs that resell LLU service, and it seems to me that one of these is likely to be the best solution, unless I just go directly to Be Pro and settle for 4 static ips (more than that becomes expensive). I have looked at Xilo and Vivaciti, but I confess I am confused by the plethora of available choices. I see that the resellers can offer products on several different underlying networks, but I have no idea how to discriminate between them in terms of network quality and saneness.

My perfect ISP ignoring price and network quality (not saying it is bad but I can't discriminate) would be Goscomb with their Be/O2 LLU service, because I see they offer native ipv6 as well, but if you want more than one static ipv4 address, you have to go for at least their cheapest business package at £36 inc. VAT (or the £40 Home package, which has no cap).

This does not compare very favourably with, say, the Xilo/Uno Pro 16 Home (C&W LLU) package at £17.99. Do Xilo charge extra for the /8 static ips? Is there any throttling? They say not on the website, but that is not enough to be sure these days. Anything bad in the AUP?

Given my lowish ADSL2+ speeds, I suppose I may be looking to upgrade next year to a resold FTTC service - subject to further research on what BT do with their traffic on this product. Therefore, it would be nice to go with a company that also has/will have reasonable packages in this category.

Well, I think I've explained enough about my needs/wants - any suggestions?

[Edit: OK, so I will just add that my budget, although not rigid, is probably around £25/month]

Edited by sallust (Fri 07-Jan-11 12:28:00)

Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Jan-11 12:35:27
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Re: Need 8 static ips, LLUs=AOL,Be,C&W,CPW,Orange,Sky,Tiscal


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This does not compare very favourably with, say, the Xilo/Uno Pro 16 Home (C&W LLU) package at £17.99. Do Xilo charge extra for the /8 static ips? Is there any throttling? They say not on the website, but that is not enough to be sure these days. Anything bad in the AUP?


No charge for 8
No throttles

Nothing bad within our AUP as far as I know smile

Matt

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Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Jan-11 12:40:55
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Re: Need 8 static ips, LLUs=AOL,Be,C&W,CPW,Orange,Sky,Tiscal


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In reply to a post by sallust:
My line can only support about 8.5 Mb/s, as far as I can tell (no extensive testing with different equipment and so on). This was established when a BT engineer came round a few months ago to sort out a wiring problem, although I did not observe how the engineer carried out the test.
Post your line stats as reported by your router - may be here: http://192.168.1.254/cgi/b/dsl/dt/?ce=1&be=0&l0=1&l1=0



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Standard User sallust
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:07:16
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Re: Need 8 static ips, LLUs=AOL,Be,C&W,CPW,Orange,Sky,Tiscal


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Wish I could! I seem to have mislaid my router password, and I can't bear to reset the whole thing because I customised various things over telnet (yes, including deleting the SuperUser and all other accounts). I'm sure I scribbled it down on a little piece of paper that someone else moved....

Actually, you got me thinking - is there a way of testing in advance which LLU network would give me better pings?

Edit: Just remembered, I think I exported the router config into a file somewhere, so maybe it wouldn't be that painful to hard-reset - if I can find the file. Anyone know what it might look like?

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Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:10:32
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Use backup and restore to save your customisations.



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Standard User sallust
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:15:31
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See my edit in previous post.
Standard User sallust
(newbie) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:21:03
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Thanks. By the way, I have read an offical Xilo rep (I think) here, saying that Tiscali tails with the 75GB cap gives a better quality of service than the C&W unlimited package. Is that still the case, and could you please offer some observations on the difference between the networks (not the package differences, which I have read about).
Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:22:26
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Yes, this is true mainly because of the control we have over the exchange equipment on Pro 24 compared to Pro 16.

Both work equally as well as the other in terms of performance but Pro 24 can have lower latency due to the profiles that can be chosen.

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Standard User BatBoy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:32:59
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Just take another backup, then you'll know wink



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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 07-Jan-11 13:57:59
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
Just take another backup, then you'll know wink
Uh tongue !
How does he do that if he doesn't know the password?

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