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Standard User jezthomp
(newbie) Fri 29-Jul-11 08:20:56
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I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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Moving house soon to a rural village so appreciate not going to get much better than 2 really currently.

I'm just not sure which to go with now, after being with Virgin cable for years and thats not available.

I read recently that Orange had improved and i am an existing Orange mobile customer, that also their unlimited actually meant that?

Then however, i think BT are upgrading our exchange soon for infinity, but again doesn't mean i'll be able to get it, but then again it might.

I read pros and cons for all ISP, i'm just not sure what to get?

I think i've narrowed it down to either BT or Orange.

I work from home and use the internet for that so needs to be reliable, don't really have much use for a phone so Orange comes out on that end.

But then if i get BT i could get infinity once its upgraded.

SamKnows also says for my exchange that..

FTTC status:
RFS date set : 01/03/2012


Which i'm not sure what it means, the exchange upgrade?

Any help would be greatly appreciated whilst i read around other threads smile
Standard User epyon
(regular) Fri 29-Jul-11 08:37:25
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Re: I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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Well BT is unlimited but is throttled at peaktimes with protocols like p2p and vpn

for orange though i'm not sure now since they basically resell BTs package but probably have some kind of fair usage policy

RFS date is when fibre will hit you're exchange approximately through the date can be off by a few months.

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Standard User john2007
(legend) Fri 29-Jul-11 08:45:00
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Re: I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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Is your exchange unbundled? If you are not sure perhaps let us know the exchange name.

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_search


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Standard User jezthomp
(newbie) Fri 29-Jul-11 09:02:47
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Re: I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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My exchange will be Sudbrooke Park

Not sure much else about it.

It provides a village i'm moving too, so i'm not holding much hope that when they upgrade it anything will happen worth while.
Standard User ffox
(member) Fri 29-Jul-11 10:46:52
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Re: I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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According to samknows you can't get Orange at Sudbrooke Park - the only LLU supplier is TalkTalk. However, the exchange is due for fibre 1/03/12.

I'm in a village 2+ miles from a small town exchange - we've got fibre and it's good.

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Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Fri 29-Jul-11 11:11:52
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Hi, your exchange Sudbrooke Park is planned for WBC FTTC Earliest Enablement Date March 2012

https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/downloads/Communit...

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/SLSPK

https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/static/Community/B...

Orange WBC 20 Meg. Sync 11864 kbps Downstream, 1189 kbps Upstream.
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BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router
Standard User jezthomp
(newbie) Fri 29-Jul-11 11:16:11
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Re: I'm Stuck, Dunno Which New ISP To Get? :(


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Thanks E7er. smile

But it depends if they update the roadside cabinet in the village I'm moving too does it not?

Upgrading the exchange might end up meaning no improvement at all frown
Standard User E7er
(knowledge is power) Fri 29-Jul-11 11:53:54
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In reply to a post by jezthomp:
Thanks E7er. smile

But it depends if they update the roadside cabinet in the village I'm moving too does it not?

Upgrading the exchange might end up meaning no improvement at all frown
Hi Jez, for WBC 24 Meg I think they just update the exchange; my exchange was updated one month ahead of schedule and Orange immediately migrated my broadband from Orange LLU to WBC. I imagine for fibre to the cabinet to all districts could take a bit longer.

WBC is copper, Wholesale Broadband Connect (WBC) up to 24Mbit/s service with upstream speeds up to 1Mbit/s.

Fibre-to-the-cabinet is an up to 40Mbit/s service with upstream speeds up to 10Mbit/s.

Orange WBC 20 Meg. Sync 11864 kbps Downstream, 1189 kbps Upstream.
Netgear DGN1000 ADSL2+ wireless N 150 Router supplied by Orange
BT Business Hub 2Wire 2700HGV v2 ADSL2+ Dual SSID wireless Router

Edited by E7er (Fri 29-Jul-11 12:14:38)

Standard User jezthomp
(newbie) Fri 29-Jul-11 13:10:51
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So if they are updating the exchange i should be able to get better speeds than i could now, just perhaps not the full 40Mbit/s unless they update the cabinet also?

So makes no real difference to go with BT or Orange currently...?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Fri 29-Jul-11 14:44:24
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In reply to a post by jezthomp:
I think i've narrowed it down to either BT or Orange.
There is no technical difference between the two. BT now provide all of Orange's BB under subcontract. So the only choice is on price and T&Cs.

In either case, on your exchange you will only get "Up to 8 Meg" BT IPStream as your exchange is not 21CN enabled.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 15.6 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 16.8 Meg Untweaked WBC
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