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Standard User Hurders
(member) Thu 08-Sep-11 12:38:48
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ISP that doesn't throttle/traffic shape advise?


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I'm going to be moving into a new house, the exchange only has TalkTalk and Orange LLU which I don't want as it seems they use heavy traffic shaping/throttling. I'll be quite a way from the exchange so only likely to get around 3Mbps at best but I need an ISP that is definitely not going to throttle/traffic shape my connection. I'm also looking for a connection that's going to give me consistently low pings for online gaming etc.

Usage wise I don't need a massive allowance (could probably get by with 10gig total but a smaller allowance during peak times and unlimited off peak could work for me). I'm not really wanting to spend much more than £15 per month.

At my current house I'm with Newnet (have been for years) on one of there old plans which gives me 20gig usage for about £22 per month. They have been great with really fast speeds and of course no throttling which is a must for me. Newnet now seem mostly geared up for the business market but I'm possibly looking at their 10gig for £15 per month package but trying to find some possible cheaper alternatives.

Along with Newnet I've also had a look at IDNet, Zen & Vispa but they don't seem to be any cheaper really. I've also been looking at Plusnet with their Extra package with the Pro add-on which supposedly means they won't traffic shape/throttle p2p. It seems very cheap but I'm very cautious of going with these 'mass-market' type providers because I've found in the past they are over subscribed, slow speeds/high pings at peak times and generally awful compared to the lesser know ISP's like Newnet.

Any suggestions?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 13:27:09
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Orange is no longer LLU. It now resells BTw White Label product which means you get WBC ADSL2+, just like LLU, in 21CN exchanges or IPStream ADSL Max in 20CN ones and it is Unlimited usage.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 13:50:52
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Might be good if Samknows deletes Orange off its LLU exchange pages.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 13:56:57
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Then, to be fair, it might a new category, for BTw White Label say, as most other BTw resellers only do IPStream.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 14:28:33
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Non-LLU ADSL is BT Wholesale by default, which every ADSL enabled exchange has, so no other category needed.

Oliver.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 14:35:23
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Not in the case of Orange, and others like PO I believe, who default to WBC ADSL2+ in 21CN exchanges, by reselling BTw's White Label product; completely unlike most other non-LLU ISPs.

As I stated earlier, but you ignored frown

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 17 Meg Untweaked 19 Meg Tweaked WBC
Standard User Oliver341
(knowledge is power) Thu 08-Sep-11 14:39:04
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Not in the case of Orange, and others like PO I believe, who default to WBC ADSL2+ in 21CN exchanges, by reselling BTw's White Label product; completely unlike most other non-LLU ISPs.

White-label or not, it's still BT Wholesale though, right?

Oliver.
Standard User Hurders
(member) Thu 08-Sep-11 14:39:37
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I wasn't aware that Orange weren't LLU, to be honest I don't really understand all this 21CN WBC stuff. I had already ruled out Orange anyway as they implement traffic shaping/throttling, so going back to my originally question, any suggestions on a suitable ISP?
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(Unregistered)Thu 08-Sep-11 15:15:41
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
Not in the case of Orange, and others like PO I believe, who default to WBC ADSL2+ in 21CN exchanges, by reselling BTw's White Label product; completely unlike most other non-LLU ISPs.

As I stated earlier, but you ignored frown

What do you get from them in 20CN exchanges, is it IPSC via WBMC or IPStream via BT centrals (if there is a difference)

Harry
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 08-Sep-11 15:18:29
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I suggest you give Plusnet a try, as the Pro package is specifically intended for gamers and no throttling. If you pay the setup costs and don't take the router then it is only a 10-day contract so no harm in giving it a try.

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