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Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Feb-17 15:52:59
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[re: ian72] [link to this post]
 
Dont get me wrong piracy is wrong, im not trying to justify it. What im saying is the argument the film/music industry use about piracy is inaccurate

If 1 million users illegal download x album, do you think those 1 million users would purchase that album if illegally downloading wasnt an option? No they wouldn't. Some would, some would just miss out. The music/film industry argue that 1 million illegal downloads means 1 million legitimate sales lost, which isnt the case.

Again I'm not saying illegal downloading is right, far from it but the music and film industry are out of touch with the impact of it
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Feb-17 16:09:21
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To be honest it is an argument that doesn't work for either side.

For the film industry it is not necessarily a lost sale

However, that isn't a justification for the pirate's to do it.

So, from both sides perspective it is an invalid argument. What is clear to me is that pirating results in some lost sales. Whether that is 10%, 50% or 80% of pirated material is a lost sale is largely irrelevant - it is still losses and what you can't do is just stop those that would have otherwise been a sale - so you either stop everything and punish or you accept that people will pirate and then the people who do pay have to pay more to cover that percentage of lost sales.
Standard User bobble_bob
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Feb-17 16:36:33
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I dont think fighting piracy though threatening to cut people off is the answer either. You cant beat it. Close 1 site down, 10 more pop up. ISPs dont want to cut customers off as they pay for their connection, and warning emails are pointless.

You have to take the stance of the music industry and offer cheaper alternatives. Used to be £15 to buy an artists album, but now you can get a subscription for less than that to Spotify a month for unlimited albums. Film industry is starting to do that with Netflix and stuff


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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Feb-17 17:04:52
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You cant beat it.

To me that is no excuse.

Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Feb-17 17:42:02
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
I have never bought a movie and never will , i don't pirate them either

So rather than being enigmatic, explain how your technique works.
Kodie and other streaming sources. or watch on terrestrial TV

Edited by tommy45 (Wed 22-Feb-17 17:45:51)

Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Feb-17 18:15:36
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Thank you.

Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 23-Feb-17 11:37:51
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Kodi IS pirating the movies that are streamed!!!

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
Now Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk
Standard User lee111s
(experienced) Thu 23-Feb-17 13:26:27
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Except you're not keeping a copy, so the law disagrees.

The illegal bit is those distributing the media. Not those consuming it.

Thay doesn't make it morally OK though.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Feb-17 15:24:17
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Kodi IS pirating the movies that are streamed!!!
Kodi isn't breaking any copyrights
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 23-Feb-17 15:35:27
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No, they aren't - Kodi is a media player and therefore not responsible. The people in breach are those that are doing the actual sharing/distribution.
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