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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Tue 21-Oct-14 09:12:20
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Outlook rule to delete spam from The Trading Floor


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I'm getting an increased number of emails from these cowboys. They're not directly from them but purport to be from other companies and say in the email body
You have received this email because you are a member of The Trading Floor.
We respect your privacy and only send emails to registered users - for more information see email footer.
Clearly a load of bovine excrement.

The emails automatically go into my Junk email folder, and I've set an Outlook rule to delete them, but it's not doing anything. The rule says
Apply this rule after the message arrives with 'The Trading Floor' in the body
delete it
and stop processing more rules
Even test running it on the Junk email folder it does nothing.

Any thoughts on what's wrong with the rule? Or is it the approach that's at fault?

Tony
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Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Oct-14 17:48:12
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Re: Outlook rule to delete spam from The Trading Floor


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I think it is because Outlook applies its own junk filters before applying user defined rules. Like you I find it a pain it does it that way especially as you cannot search the junk folder.

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Tue 21-Oct-14 17:59:46
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Re: Outlook rule to delete spam from The Trading Floor


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During the rule set up or amendment it gives the option to Run now on a chosen folder, so choose the Junk email folder. It still doesn't work.

Move the offending emails to the Inbox and run the rule against the Inbox and it still doesn't work.

Something strange going on but I've currently no idea what.

Tony
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Oct-14 19:53:27
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Re: Outlook rule to delete spam from The Trading Floor


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It should work.
In reply to a post by cheshire_man:
The emails automatically go into my Junk email folder
Why? You don't have a rule for that? Is that Outlook's own spam filtering? Can't you switch it off?

Does it need 'and stop processing more rules'?

Perhaps the text has some hidden chars in it. Try 'Save As' the msg somewhere and inspect it with Notepad. Try just testing for 'Trading' for the mo'.

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Tue 21-Oct-14 22:07:48
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Changed the text to Trading, removed 'stop processing more rules' and reran on Junk Email folder, nothing. Moved the emails to the Inbox and ran it against Inbox, nothing.

When the messages are in the Junk email folder all the formatting is removed and there doesn't look to be any hidden characters. Saving it and looking at it with HexEdit shows X00 between each character, but I'd guess that's because 2-byte encoding is being used rather than actual hidden characters.

Tony
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Oct-14 23:18:31
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You still haven't said why these things end up in Junk Folder?

Send yourself an innocuous email containing the phrase you are filtering, hope it isn't Junked by Outlook and see if that works. If it does you know its something to do with the Junkung.

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Oct-14 09:54:28
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I have Outlook's junk email protection set to Low - Move the most obvious junk e-mail to the Junk e-mail folder.

I think there's an update that comes from MS every so often that updates some Outlook filter, not sure where that is to look at it, assuming it's in a file somewhere.

Tony
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Standard User gomezz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Oct-14 10:34:09
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Something I have wondered about: Does moving mail to the Junk folder help MS maintain its Junk filtering more accurately rather than just a straight delete from the Inbox?

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Oct-14 11:45:30
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Isn't it a case of false positives? Lets you check whether you really want it.

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Wed 22-Oct-14 11:46:01
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Replying to my OP for convenience.

I've found out that The Trading Floor is part of a group called Callcredit Information Group, they list 14 web sites that they have. One of these is noddle<dot>co<dot>uk.

Following a recommendation from a national broadsheet newspaper I registered with noddle for a free credit report. Thinking back, it's probably a few months after that I started to get emails from Trading Floor and associated organisations.

I'm now attempting to unsubscribe from noddle and all associated web sites. We'll see.

Tony
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