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Standard User techguy
(experienced) Thu 16-Jul-15 19:51:58
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Windows 10 updates to be automatic and mandatory


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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/16/windows_10_w...

No bad thing but ISP networks are likely to be hit hard I reckon.

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Standard User bobble_bob
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 16-Jul-15 19:58:30
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Be fun when MS release an update that breaks something major and you wont know until its too late. Its happened before
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 16-Jul-15 21:14:14
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which I predicted months ago smile

applocker and other stuff been removed from non enterprise ouch

http://microsoftstrategy.azurewebsites.net/wp-conten...

also

http://www.microsoftlicensereview.com/?tag=windows-c...

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Edited by Chrysalis (Thu 16-Jul-15 21:23:34)


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Standard User herbgold
(member) Sat 18-Jul-15 07:13:25
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Re: Windows 10 updates to be automatic and mandatory


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I think that's only for Windows Home. It's not clear, but I think Windows Pro users will be able to defer updates - see here:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/0...

which says

"Windows 10 Pro users will have a little flexibility; they'll be able to switch from the mainstream release to the Current Branch for Business (CBB). This will give some control over when updates are deployed. While the CBB will essentially track the consumer release, it will allow feature updates to be held back for some amount of time; Anderson quotes a Microsoft executive saying that companies will have around eight months to prepare for each new feature update. Delay the feature update any further and they'll also be prevented from receiving security updates."

I certainly hope that that's the case!
Standard User herbgold
(member) Tue 21-Jul-15 06:28:23
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That is correct. The authoritative answer is here:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/win...
Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jul-15 20:34:20
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MS is describing win 10 as a service and is going to be so locked down will in the future we have to pay a subscription to continue use as a service?

Tim
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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jul-15 20:55:48
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In reply to a post by Banger:
MS is describing win 10 as a service and is going to be so locked down will in the future we have to pay a subscription to continue use as a service?

That might come eventually but I suspect not anytime soon. People who have upgraded from Win7 and Win8 would get extremely angry if 1 year down the line they are told to start paying a subscription for updates, MS aren't gonna do this anytime soon. They would also get totally shot down by the security community if they stopped updates to people's systems unless they paid.

That's my prediction.

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Standard User Sark
(legend) Tue 21-Jul-15 21:10:33
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I agree. No other consumer operating system even charges for major feature updates never mind patches. So my guess is MS will just keep on updating your install to the latest and greatest until the device dies of old age. They still charge OEMs for the initial purchase which is where all the money is anyway.

John.
Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Jul-15 21:53:21
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In reply to a post by herbgold:
I think that's only for Windows Home. It's not clear, but I think Windows Pro users will be able to defer updates - see here:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/0...

which says

"Windows 10 Pro users will have a little flexibility; they'll be able to switch from the mainstream release to the Current Branch for Business (CBB). This will give some control over when updates are deployed. While the CBB will essentially track the consumer release, it will allow feature updates to be held back for some amount of time; Anderson quotes a Microsoft executive saying that companies will have around eight months to prepare for each new feature update. Delay the feature update any further and they'll also be prevented from receiving security updates."

I certainly hope that that's the case!


Not as much flexibility as we have with windows 8 and below.
windows 10 seems to want us to be linked in, to Ms account all the time. Cortana will not work if you are not signed into the MS account.
I have disabled cortana and blocked most of the other stuff Windows 10 want to know, like location, not that the location is correct, it thinks I am in Sheffield.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 22-Jul-15 10:25:46
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The other main OS provider that used to charge is Apple.

Whilst they now provide updates free (they did charge for them a while back) they tend to only do so for "supported" models - they don't allow the update for older models. If you want to get the new version when you have an older model then the only option is to buy a new Apple Mac. The support is not bad by the looks of it as Yosemite is supported on hardware back to 2007 - so about an 8 year support lifecycle.

I suspect MS will do the same. If your kit is older than that then the updates will stop and you either keep running that version or you buy newer hardware.
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