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Standard User slimj
(member) Mon 27-Aug-12 20:40:09
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For those that may miss the news piece. smile
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We have been working very hard behind the scenes recently to both increase coverage and also increase backhaul to key repeater sites. We will soon be in a position to announce our new range of Superfast Broadband packages, and also our new increased coverage. New packages will be based on a usage model and customers will be able to subscribe to speeds upto 60Mbit. The fine details are yet to be finalised but we will publish them here as soon as possible. Customers on existing packages are not required to change.

Regards

The Vfast Team

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Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Tue 28-Aug-12 01:19:13
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I take a peak now and then.

Interested to see what is coming.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 31-Aug-12 04:33:14
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Good news, what do they mean by new packages will be based on a usage model ? hopefully the top tier is unlimited especially if they're going to be charging more for the 60MBit service.

I'll definitely upgrade if it's £50 or under a month.


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Standard User gmc1
(learned) Fri 31-Aug-12 09:15:45
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I would also be interested but only if NNTP runs at a decent speed all the time and not just during the night.

Edited by gmc1 (Fri 31-Aug-12 11:19:35)

Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Fri 31-Aug-12 09:23:01
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Be interesting to see what the new usage based packages look like.
I really want the increased upload speed that vfast can provide over ADSL2+ but last time I inquired my usage was way outside what was considered to be acceptable for your current service, around 250 to 300GB.

Just hope your new usage levels will go up that high!
Standard User gmc1
(learned) Fri 31-Aug-12 11:28:51
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My ideal package would be about 50Mb download, unlimited with no NNTP restrictions.

Although I am on the VMAX package, I do download a lot and am always wary of doing too much.

I would be happy to pay more for a better service.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 31-Aug-12 22:08:42
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Yeah Ideally those of us who are download/upload hungry users like myself it'll be recommended to upgrade to lets say 50-60MB service I believe they're pretty much unlimited I don't notice a reduction in my speed but I do my best to download at the times recommended to me.

If they've got 30MB-60MB speeds to play with they're most likely introducing two more top tier packages. I just hope it isn't too costly. And I also hope there's an upload speed increase as well for this new package perhaps 60MB download and 20/25 upload. I'd be willing to pay close to £60 for that perhaps many won't but I would be.
Standard User brettjallen
(newbie) Sat 01-Sep-12 08:10:55
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I would like to see a scheme where you get an allowance for peak and off peak usage. So something like 50GB peak usage with unlimited off peak might tempt me. I do prefer to know where I stand with usage rather than unlimited with fup.

Price wise I'm not too sure if I would want to pay more than the £37 a month I'm already paying to be honest. They should look to mirror Adsl24 FTTC rates.

Guess I'm trying to say I find 20Mb more than adequate for most tasks and wouldn't be interesting in paying much more for extra bandwidth.

Good luck to them anyway I think they offer a superb service to people who cannot get FTTC.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sat 01-Sep-12 11:20:03
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50GB peak usage would be eaten up by PC gamers like myself, the downloading + all the online activity although it'd no doubt be fine for most customers. I think the upgraded service is probably targeting the ever hungry downloader/uploader and game like myself.

Less latency/higher bandwidth is a huge win/win especially when they have 0 competition as far as I'm concerned. Now I don't want to pay more than £37 but it's looking obvious that we'll have to if we want the improved service. As it states no change in service for current customers.

Under £49.99 I'm banking on at the moment but we shall see, I'd say that's more than worth it for £60 down especially if you need it. I'm just thinking of all the time saved on steam downloads. And 2K/4K Video content I'll be uploading (if upload gets a boost as well)
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Sun 02-Sep-12 09:59:48
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I'd be willing to pay close to £60 for that perhaps many won't but I would be.

I'd agree with that for the usage I need on a high quality, low latency network.
Would also want to see some clarity on what if any traffic shaping they apply.

I'd guess the issue for vfast might be the wireless bandwidth available through each repeater if the usage levels start to climb rapidly rather than the cost or provision of the back haul?
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Sun 02-Sep-12 11:16:05
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In reply to a post by gmoorc:
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
I'd be willing to pay close to £60 for that perhaps many won't but I would be.

I'd agree with that for the usage I need on a high quality, low latency network.
Would also want to see some clarity on what if any traffic shaping they apply.

I'd guess the issue for vfast might be the wireless bandwidth available through each repeater if the usage levels start to climb rapidly rather than the cost or provision of the back haul?


I am also interested in what will happen to keep the low latency on the network that (mostly) keeps my ms at >10ms.

Yesterday somebody on the Dunkirk mast was having a massive download session and between 1pm and 2pm my ms would spike every few seconds to >100ms from 10ms. If your gaming in BF3 then this will really mess things up.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 02-Sep-12 16:13:24
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VFast latency and speed has always been flakey and unreliable. Their back hauls have always been saturated. This will just make that problem go away, only to have it come back when some tosspot starts ripping through his torrents.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 02-Sep-12 22:09:32
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My latency is consistent throughout the day never have an issue with it. Although I understand your frustrations in a game like BF3 where latency is the difference between life and death XD

Now I don't know if the above is due to location or simply me being the heaviest user in my area which is likely


I wish they weren't so cryptic with the information they released, when are they officially announcing the packages, the speeds, the costs, improvement in the overall network, reduced latency. I wouldn't even know about it if I hadn't checked their website (1st time I have since signing up for the service. So I'm guessing they'd e-mail everyone once the service launches otherwise I'm obliged to check their site everyday now.

Not everyone is raping torrents, I myself download almost everything I need on steam, a bunch of effects for After effects which can go into the 100's of GB's every month.

I've done a good job of doing downloads around this time to hopefully avoid affecting others and it seems to have been a good method as I've received no complaints from Vfast yet.

Really excited about the new service launching I don't think vfast quite understand tongue
the possibility of downloading steam games at 6MB/S will be lovely.

So yes Vfast if you're reading this someone reply and hint and what to expect (hopefully an upload upgrade as well which wasn't mentioned in the news release)
Standard User brettjallen
(newbie) Mon 10-Sep-12 18:17:22
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Thought we would have heard something by now?
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Tue 11-Sep-12 20:05:41
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Thought we would have heard something by now?

I spoke with them yesterday and was told that it would be towards the end of the year, start of next year and probably rolled out by region.
He didn't sound that sure however so maybe take with a pinch of salt....
Standard User brettjallen
(newbie) Tue 11-Sep-12 23:03:05
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wow ok they made it sound like something was coming much sooner lol
Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 12-Sep-12 10:17:39
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Not too great with their PR then as I read it as happening within weeks too - Good job the service is fantastic however! smile

Be good if Tim or Darren could post an update here for clarification.

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Standard User prlzx
(committed) Wed 12-Sep-12 11:27:43
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Depending on what kit they use they may be waiting on manufacturing and distribution of newer models to reach UK (tends to be USA first).

Naturally, there is nothing to stop you popping over to read the forums for that make of kit as many WISPs post there so you'll have a sense of who has tried what, as well as about the data rates and other capabilities of the kit (datasheets) - also in the public domain.

(apart from some beta stuff which is understandably members only for pre-release testing)

Not to assume too much as any serious WISPs will have other types of kit in the mix for the data centre / routing and and of the other not-specific-to-wireless nature of being an ISP.



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Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Wed 12-Sep-12 12:28:15
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I was also told there would be no need for new customer kit, at least for any install carried out over the last year or two I think he said...
I guess that doesn't rule out possible new repeater kit though.
Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 12-Sep-12 12:37:09
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Probably not required to change any customer kit (if you're on the Airmax gear), just increase bandwidth to repeater sites.

I managed speeds up to about 50mbit on the Airmax gear during a trial 18 months ago so 60mbit should be possible without trouble providing the bandwidth is available.

Not sure how many users were on the new network when I was trialling so it will be interesting to see how the network performs with 100's of users connected at 60mbit! smile

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Edited by slimj (Wed 12-Sep-12 12:38:38)

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 12-Sep-12 13:04:37
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I'd like to know when they'll most likely start offering the service as well no point announcing it in late August if it isn't coming before the end of the year to be honest.

Anyone in the know should post in here for sure.
Standard User prlzx
(experienced) Wed 12-Sep-12 15:05:59
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Yes I hadn't read what was being promised; if using Airmax flavour of this make, the CPE (station) end will do anything up to aggregate 150Mbps on a near perfect link*.

So "up to 60Mpbs" is certainly possible as the maximum above is equivalent to variable e.g. 75/75 90/60 (*) when no-one else is transmitting / receiving significant amounts of data on other stations sharing the same access point as you.

"Repeaters" can be a little confusing as a term - if we are talking about relay sites without their own fibre backhaul.

The peak speeds above can be achieved if a relay site has a backhaul radio (sometimes a higher licensed band or optical link), separate from the radio(s) of access points that further subscribers connect to. Otherwise if the relay site is a single device, capacity is halved (or worse) as usual by WDS repeating or similar.

Anyway - for capacity would be nice to see more affordable MIMO 3x3 or even 4x4 stuff (in n) on the market.

As for the future I think 802.11ac will be being actively researched, depending on if Atheros have any equivalent chipset suitable for production or if there would have to be a switch to something else like Broadcom.

The risk with the ac stuff will be in space in the 5Ghz band, whereas with current 20 and 40MHz widths you can still find usable channels outdoors in the UK, if links start relying on 80 or 160MHz widths that will be eaten up much quicker whereas if designs which add capacity via the extra spatial streams available it would not be so bad.

(If the market goes as with 2.4Ghz, many consumer devices still go with cheaper single antenna designs they can label it 'n' and quote the maximum data rate for 40Mhz, but that spans too many channels for multiple neighbouring network to perform well).



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Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Wed 12-Sep-12 19:41:21
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Hi Guys,

OK to clarify the stages we are going through at the moment, we have been upgrading the fibre backhauls to multiple balanced gigabit circuits from diverse fibre providers and adding capacity to core sites before introducing the packages, for the most part this is now complete. For users like slimj in Thanet, we have half installed the new licensed link which operates at 22ghz for those that are interested and it will carry significant additional bandwidth, the new link is manufactured by Ceragon for those who wish to look it up. It is connected directly to a gigabit fibre and this will be for the new packages independent of the existing backhaul. We are installing new sectors which customers on the new packages will connect to, the end user will keep their existing antenna.

We are hoping to have the new packages released early next month in most areas. We have been working extremely hard on this behind the scenes so please bear with us as it is no small task, we actually started this process around 18 months ago !

Regards
Darren
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Wed 12-Sep-12 20:44:39
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Looking forward to seeing the usage levels on the new products.

I was told this week that I shouldn't place an order as my expected usage of 100 to 125GB was too high. Was hoping to bond to my existing adsl line to get the benefit of increased upload speed.

I think it will be an improvement moving to usage based tariffs as it will provide a level of clarity that you don't currently have with your unlimited with FUP package.

In addition the FUP of 200GB you currently have on Vmax doesn't seem to be reflected in the advice being given by your sales team.

Having said that if your new packages run to my usage level no doubt I'll be back to place an order smile
Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Wed 12-Sep-12 21:00:53
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Yes, deciding on the usage allowances is holding things up also, we have been monitoring customer usage to get a feel for what people require, the range is quite vast, some customers this month so far have used around 10gig whereas others have already passed 200gig ! Customers will not have to move to usage based but it will allow us to be more flexible with the package pricing.

Regards
Darren
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Thu 13-Sep-12 08:24:09
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Out of interest Darren do you expect the speed v distance to be the same on the new products?
I'm around 12Km from the mast so was told to expect around 15Mbps on your Vmax product.
Gary
Standard User kijoma
(committed) Thu 13-Sep-12 16:46:35
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hi,

As Airmax veterans, i.e. we even had pre-release product here under test back in 2009, I can vouch that 60 Mbps TCP is readily acheivable. In fact under the right conditions over 85 Mbps TCP one way is workable too.

What is interesting, for those who stream UDP stuff, is UDP will do the full 100 Mbps .

We have usage based tariffs , although off peak is unmetered so we often have customers with usage stats like this :-

P 1426.4 OP 311122.3

That is Peak Time 1.426 GB , off peak 311.122 GB and that is up to today, the 13th of the month smile

They pay £13.99 for that tariff laugh

Good to hear of the 22 GHz licensed stuff , have Vfast tried out the Air Fibre product yet?, it has its uses for short haul links , problem is we do not have many short haul links!

cheers

Bill

Bill Lewis - MD
Kijoma Broadband
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Standard User slimj
(member) Thu 13-Sep-12 17:11:02
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Thanks for the update Darren, looking forward to seeing what packages you will be offering shortly. I shall fire off an email to support next month as I have a couple of questions.

Cheers

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Thu 13-Sep-12 21:28:39
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Hi Bill,

Not bothered trying the air fibre, the "allowed" frequency we can use is to narrow to get the full potential and i think for the cost there are other devices that can go further, faster. Like yourself , we have very few short links smile . Will have a have a catchup soon, got some interesting stuff going on tying to make the EC believe non "hard wired" broadband can still be NGA ! I think what BDUK is doing to wisp's across the country may be ilegal.
Standard User kijoma
(committed) Thu 13-Sep-12 22:56:53
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Hi Darren,

Yes i agree, a catch up chat would be good, the BDUK fiasco and the way it discriminates against genuine competition should be illegal even if it claims not to be.

I think you also need to factor in the public funding of market 1 ADSL exchanges to the tune of £100,000 each in West Sussex this year, despite all three having a 16-30Mbps service already from Kijoma. , 2 for nearly 8 years, 1 for 4 years (it had a wifi mesh mess before, public funded too).

I have been collecting evidence over the years if that helps.

Count me in on the EC NGA pursuit, it is something I have been battling here independently as so far none of the "groups" seem to consider Kijoma's input as important smile


cheers

Bill
In reply to a post by darrenorbital:
Hi Bill,

Not bothered trying the air fibre, the "allowed" frequency we can use is to narrow to get the full potential and i think for the cost there are other devices that can go further, faster. Like yourself , we have very few short links smile . Will have a have a catchup soon, got some interesting stuff going on tying to make the EC believe non "hard wired" broadband can still be NGA ! I think what BDUK is doing to wisp's across the country may be ilegal.


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Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Fri 14-Sep-12 22:38:46
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This is very interesting as it seems the minister does not share the same view on Wireless broadband as many county councils and BDUK. He states that Superfast Broadband is technology neutral.

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetin...

Regards
Darren
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Sat 22-Sep-12 13:16:40
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In reply to a post by slimj:
Thanks for the update Darren, looking forward to seeing what packages you will be offering shortly. I shall fire off an email to support next month as I have a couple of questions.

Cheers


Just read the news about Quickline Communications on the front page and the small note of ThinkBroadband reporting about Barham in 2010 and the VMax package being upgraded to 50mb.

I guess the new packages are a little bit late then - still if you need any service testing then I would like to volunteer.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Mon 24-Sep-12 20:34:13
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http://speedtest.net/result/2200150736.png

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Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Mon 24-Sep-12 20:38:05
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Ok who are you so we can look into your speeds please ?
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Mon 24-Sep-12 22:21:03
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Hi Darren.

Don't know who the Anonymous poster is but I have sent you a pm with a run of Speedtests for tonight and back in June (at least for the same IP).

It's pretty much variable to say the least.

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Standard User ModemMan
(regular) Tue 25-Sep-12 15:03:21
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Hi fellow vFasters

Interesting stuff, I signed up with vFast at the end of 2010 and was absolutely blown away by the speeds, was managing to get over 60mb down and 30mb up. Admittedly I'm under half a mile away from the Ash repeater and almost line of sight which must help. All this and I was only on the vHome package so I was a really happy bunny. I guess I must have been on some special high speed trial because unfortunately over the last few months the speeds have decreased, they seemed to go down to vPro speeds and now I'm only getting what I pay for. The problem is you get used to the higher speeds and it's really hard to accept a measly 15Mbps/2Mbps especially when things like iPlayer start buffering. I'm not a high volume user and don't do massive downloads so I think it would be only right for vFast to put me on to these higher speeds ASAP free of charge as a sort of compensation.

Cheers John
(tongue firmly in cheek)
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Tue 25-Sep-12 17:39:18
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Hi ModemMan, welcome to the forum (checks profile and see's that you're a long time lurker rather than poster).

I had a similar bonus a while back when I was trialling the higher speeds from the Dunkirk mast. I can't remember the upper limit but it was certainly higher than the VMax 24mb/10mb package I am on now.

I only noticed after I uploaded a lot of photos and videos to Flickr and it finished much sooner than I had expected. Speeds were set back to the fixed package a month or two later.

I reckon they are giving us a free hit to get us hooked wink smile

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Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 26-Sep-12 10:35:36
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Hi was the same in Thanet back n November 2010. Everything felt too fast! laugh

44mbit down / 32mbit up.

http://speedtest.net/result/1042675049.png

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Standard User darrenorbital
(learned) Wed 26-Sep-12 21:43:37
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As part of our research into network performance, we do sometimes open up customers connections for a month or two, this is to see how they perform and what effect it has on latency etc.....

\regards
Darren
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 03-Oct-12 04:07:53
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Any estimates on where the new service will be launching ? seeing as September has come and gone now.
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Sun 07-Oct-12 15:36:40
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Any estimates on where the new service will be launching ? seeing as September has come and gone now.


My guess is that they will be ready for the New Year but perhaps announced before Christmas.

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 12-Oct-12 12:15:46
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In reply to a post by Yaz:
In reply to a post by Anonymous:
Any estimates on where the new service will be launching ? seeing as September has come and gone now.


My guess is that they will be ready for the New Year but perhaps announced before Christmas.


Disappointing if only because I'm impatient. Well I hope they stick to the ambitious 60 meg projections while not costing too much more.
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Thu 25-Oct-12 21:25:55
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I'm hoping that there is some more news soon, even if it's to say that they have delayed things if there has been a need to do so.

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Standard User brettjallen
(newbie) Wed 12-Dec-12 22:08:17
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An update on packages from VFast website:

"We would also like to update that our new packages will be released over the Christmas Break, full details will be posted on our Website."
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Thu 13-Dec-12 22:56:42
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Evening Brett.

I did see that earlier today.

The rollout update is also good news.

Post in full:
We are very pleased to announce we are now installing Customers in Old Wives Lees from the new Next Generation repeater commissioned last week, testing completed today has show end users capable of downloading at around 50mbit. We are also very pleased to announce a brand new next generation network is now live in St Nicholas at Wade, this new high capacity network will run alongside the existing network until all customers are migrated, initial testing from customers installed today was very positive.

New areas announced for increased coverage Spring 2013
East Farleigh
West Farleigh
East Malling
Staplehurst
Marden
Wateringbury

We would also like to update that our new packages will be released over the Christmas Break, full details will be posted on our Website.


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Standard User gmc1
(learned) Fri 08-Feb-13 12:03:56
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I wonder what happened to the announcement of the new packages that were due to be released over Christmas?
Standard User slimj
(member) Fri 08-Feb-13 13:34:08
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Delay with the routers apparently (not sure if they're referring to end users routers but wouldn't see a reason why end users would need to change routers anyway?!?). If you 'like' them on Facebook you will see the posts in there. Some trial speedtest results showing speeds in excess of 50mbit.

Don't see a reason why they can't announce the packages for pre-order however, they must have been decided a while ago considering the announcement was made back in August.

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 27-Feb-13 11:52:42
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In reply to a post by gmc1:
I wonder what happened to the announcement of the new packages that were due to be released over Christmas?


Looks like new packages are being rolled out now (from VFast on Twitter), if you're in St Nicholas anyway.

http://vfast.co.uk/stnicholas/

Packages look pretty good to me - some nice tasty speed increases. I'm guessing if you're on the VMax product already you'll see a reduction in your monthly bill?

Packages are as follows - Not including installation charges (FREE installation if on 24 month contract).

Airfibre Lite - Up to 50Mbps download / 1Mbps upload, 50:1 contention ratio - 5Gb Usage - £14.50*

Airfibre Home - Up to 50Mbps download / 1Mbps upload, 50:1 contention ratio - 10Gb Usage - £17.50*

Airfibre Max - Up to 50Mbps download / 2Mbps upload, 30:1 contention ratio - 100Gb Usage - £24.99*

Airfibre Ultimate - Up to 50Mbps download / 10Mbps upload, 20:1 contention ratio - Unlimited Usage - £29.99*

*Per month - includes £10 VLink rental charge (like a phone rental charge, but lower!).

Pretty sure the Airfibre Max package will suit 90% of users for £24.99 - Same as the current VHome package.

(Darren / Tim - please correct me if the details are incorrect smile )

Cheers
James

VFast Wireless Broadband.
My Broadband Speed Test

Edited by slimj (Wed 27-Feb-13 13:47:21)

Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Wed 27-Feb-13 12:41:58
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Well I'm pleasantly surprised at the unlimited pricing. Fully expected it to be more expensive than the existing package.

It will be interesting to see if the AUP has changed in any way. Currently this is 200GB I believe on max.
If not it would have been nice to have a higher usage option available at greater cost.

I see they have also made price comparisons to ADSL more comparable by breaking out a line rental amount.
Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 27-Feb-13 13:49:54
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Same. I was expecting the costs to be higher, as in £35+ for the "Ultimate" service.

I updated the post above to be clearer about the pricing.

Hopefully the packages will be available in Thanet and elsewhere soon.

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Edited by slimj (Wed 27-Feb-13 13:50:31)

Standard User gmc1
(learned) Fri 01-Mar-13 14:22:09
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In reply to a post by gmoorc:
Well I'm pleasantly surprised at the unlimited pricing. Fully expected it to be more expensive than the existing package.

It will be interesting to see if the AUP has changed in any way. Currently this is 200GB I believe on max.
If not it would have been nice to have a higher usage option available at greater cost.


This does look good but since I know I am one of the high downloaders, I would have liked to have been able to have a higher allowance at a higher cost. That way I would not feel guilty and always be worrying about downloading too much.
Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Fri 17-May-13 08:49:19
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So is anyone on the new service yet? Would be interested in how it is performing.

All looks very quiet on their website. Another few months and it will be a year since the announcement!
Standard User majika2007
(learned) Fri 17-May-13 09:08:10
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Out of curiosity, where are the "key repeater sites" which you referred to in the post introduction..
Are those "Key repeater sites" separate from the 26 (odd) main Aggregation Points (APs) dotted throughout the country? or are they partly situated in between strategic locations between the AP's and the backhalls links you guys have got setup? wink

As I understand wireless providers are a 'slightly' different beast when it come to talking about network structures etc..

Plusnet Waiting for FTTC Install smile

Edited by majika2007 (Fri 17-May-13 09:10:59)

Standard User slimj
(member) Fri 17-May-13 09:23:31
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In reply to a post by gmoorc:
So is anyone on the new service yet? Would be interested in how it is performing.

All looks very quiet on their website. Another few months and it will be a year since the announcement!


I'm in Thanet and have had my connection improved substantially after Tim asked me to run some tests. While I'm yet to see the full 50Mbit speeds (touched about 40mbit but more work is required to bring the speeds up), my latency has improved massively with no high latency periods in the evenings which I was suffering with before - it's consistently around 10ms now.

I don't think it's an easy task to just give everbody 50mbit, some serious work will have to go in to making sure the backhaul can handle the demand without affecting other users. You also have to remember this is a small company, not BT or Sky! I think they've done a great job so far. wink

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Standard User vfast_tim
(learned) Fri 17-May-13 18:23:06
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Hi Slimj

Considering your connection is 3 wireless hops before it hits Gbit fibre that's good going. I've not yet had the chance to organise the next part of the upgrade, but rest assured this is coming soon.

Hi gmoorc

Here's a speed test done by a customer in Eastry testing ~50Mbps:- http://www.speedtest.net/result/2712379481.png

Hi majika2007

Key repeater sites are those with fibre or microwave backhaul which then feed many other 'local' repeaters. These are in main towns around Kent where fibre (Ethernet Access Direct or equivalent) is readily available.

Tim Higgs
Vfast internet | Technical Support
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Standard User gmoorc
(committed) Sat 18-May-13 09:29:23
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Looks impressive. Especially maintaining the low latency.
Good luck with the rest of the roll out.

Unfortunately I think I would need a repeater closer to Hawkinge to take advantage of the new speeds, as well as our usage being too high.
Standard User vfast_tim
(learned) Sat 18-May-13 11:14:07
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Yes we'd need a repeater in Hawkinge and that would need to connect back to Guston (wireless) or to Folkestone using a Wholesale Ethernet Service. I've looked at locations for a repeater in Hawkinge and never found somewhere suitable that wouldn't need a 12~15 meter lattice mast put up; there's no tall flats or office blocks.

We've had little demand from Hawkinge, perhaps because most get 10~20Mbps on ADSL2+ (TT, Sky and BT WBC). I expect we'd see more interest if we could provide ~50Mbps but would need a Gig WES and few hundred customers in Hawkinge to cover the cost of that.

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Standard User chall32
(newbie) Sat 31-Aug-13 17:31:46
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Question to vFast:

I'm interested in AirFibre Max product and know I'm in a good area for reception (Ashford with several neighbours that already have vFast connections), I would like to know what penalties there are should I go over the 100GB monthly usage figure....

I could not find anything related to this in the AUP PDF on your website.

Also, if I were to request a static IP, are there any additional costs involved? (Again, I saw something about static IP's being available but nothing about any costs etc)

Thanks

Chris
Standard User slimj
(member) Thu 12-Sep-13 11:43:16
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In reply to a post by chall32:
Question to vFast:

I'm interested in AirFibre Max product and know I'm in a good area for reception (Ashford with several neighbours that already have vFast connections), I would like to know what penalties there are should I go over the 100GB monthly usage figure....

I could not find anything related to this in the AUP PDF on your website.

Also, if I were to request a static IP, are there any additional costs involved? (Again, I saw something about static IP's being available but nothing about any costs etc)

Thanks

Chris


Best to email them directly or write a post on their facebook page.

I doubt you'll be able to get a static IP, last time I saw a post they didn't offer this. I'm sure if you kept going over the monthly usage allowance they would either restrict your connection and probably advise you go up to their next package.

James

VFast Wireless Broadband.
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Standard User ModemMan
(regular) Tue 17-Dec-13 01:26:54
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Here's a speed test done by a customer in Eastry testing ~50Mbps:- http://www.speedtest.net/result/2712379481.png

Hi Tim
I'm in Woodnesborough (line of sight to the bunker at ash) and when I first joined Vfast (2011) I was consistently getting over 50Mbps and at best over 60Mbps
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1130610467.png
Unfortunately I don't get those speeds any more but I'm always willing if you want a candidate for testing the higher speeds smile

I see the new packages are now listed on the vfast site and it is a great shame they are all 24Mb I hoped at least one of the packages would be 50Mb so I could regain those old speeds (especially as the St Nicolas ones were all 50Mb)
Also no mention of contention ratio for any of the packages ?

Cheers
John

Edited by ModemMan (Tue 17-Dec-13 01:56:23)

Standard User ModemMan
(regular) Tue 17-Dec-13 01:38:04
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[re: chall32] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by chall32:
Question to vFast:

I'm interested in AirFibre Max product and know I'm in a good area for reception (Ashford with several neighbours that already have vFast connections), I would like to know what penalties there are should I go over the 100GB monthly usage figure....

I could not find anything related to this in the AUP PDF on your website.

Also, if I were to request a static IP, are there any additional costs involved? (Again, I saw something about static IP's being available but nothing about any costs etc)

Thanks

Chris


Hi Chris,
Here are the FUP details as in the T&C's on the the vfast site:-

Fair Usage Policy
All our packages are designed for normal residential use. This is defined as being bursty usage, i.e. not continuous and sustained downloading and/or uploading over a long period of time. Continuous downloading and/or uploading will quickly use up your usage allowance and once your usage allowance has been exceeded the service will be rate limited to 128kbps until either upgraded to the next package, additional usage allowance purchased at a £1/GB or the next months usage allowance starts.

Airfibre Lite = 5GB* per month, reduced to 128kbps once exceeded.
Airfiber Home = 10GB* per month, reduced to 128kbps once exceeded.
Airfibre Max = 100GB* per month, reduced to 128kbps once exceeded.
Airfibre Ultimate = 300GB* per month fair usage, service will continue as normal however an excessive usage warning will be sent by e-mail. If high usage continues then we reserve the right to temporarily rate limit the service to protect other customers and maintain a high level of service for the majoroity of our customers.

* Usage Allowance = Download + Upload.

Monthly usage allowances start on the 1st of each month at midnight.
Standard User chall32
(newbie) Tue 17-Dec-13 06:30:24
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Ouch!

OK thanks for the reply.

Think I'll wait for BT fibre which is due first quarter of 2014.
Standard User slimj
(member) Tue 17-Dec-13 09:08:09
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[re: ModemMan] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ModemMan:
In reply to a post by vfast_tim:
Here's a speed test done by a customer in Eastry testing ~50Mbps:- http://www.speedtest.net/result/2712379481.png

Hi Tim
I'm in Woodnesborough (line of sight to the bunker at ash) and when I first joined Vfast (2011) I was consistently getting over 50Mbps and at best over 60Mbps
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1130610467.png
Unfortunately I don't get those speeds any more but I'm always willing if you want a candidate for testing the higher speeds smile

I see the new packages are now listed on the vfast site and it is a great shame they are all 24Mb I hoped at least one of the packages would be 50Mb so I could regain those old speeds (especially as the St Nicolas ones were all 50Mb)
Also no mention of contention ratio for any of the packages ?

Cheers
John


Hi John,

The VFast Facebook page is good to keep an eye on things, they generally respond. This was posted on their FB page in response to a customer with a similar query regarding faster speeds (October 12th 2013).

"Ok , we did intend in officially releasing 50mbit packages, the Valuations office who determine business rates approached us to inform us of rates that would be applicable on a per end user basis for superfast broadband connections. They have not yet determined how much they will charge bit have said they will backdate the unknown charge to 2010, superfast in the uk is over 24mbit, in the eu it is over 30mbit , this is the reason we did not yet release the 50mbit packages as we would be exposing ourselves to an unknown cost , it does however enable the government to provide Bt some level of protection and time to catch up with altnets."


I too was getting over 40mbit back in 2011 but now get around 20mbit - perfectly happy with those speeds but would be good to have 50mbit+ now like my fibred up buddies!! wink

Cheers
James

VFast Wireless Broadband.
My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User gymnast
(newbie) Sun 20-Apr-14 12:27:45
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Hi, I am very interested in using vfast. BT as usual is doing nothing in my area, (fibre in 2018/19 - maybe!). Vfast say I am in the area of a mast and can meet 24m. My worry is latency, is mit a problem for speed?.. To be honest anything would be an advance, two tin cans and a piece of wet string would better my speeds, normally around 450k to 2m on BT. Any user comments on Vfast would be appreciated. Jon
Standard User gah789
(learned) Sun 20-Apr-14 17:33:10
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I am not a Vfast customer but I use another wireless service. My latency is reported as 15-20 ms by the TBB speed test. In contrast my ADSL line (capped at 512 kbps due to an Exchange Activate exchange) has a latency of 50-55 ms.
Standard User slimj
(member) Tue 22-Apr-14 11:15:54
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In reply to a post by gymnast:
Hi, I am very interested in using vfast. BT as usual is doing nothing in my area, (fibre in 2018/19 - maybe!). Vfast say I am in the area of a mast and can meet 24m. My worry is latency, is mit a problem for speed?.. To be honest anything would be an advance, two tin cans and a piece of wet string would better my speeds, normally around 450k to 2m on BT. Any user comments on Vfast would be appreciated. Jon


Jon,

Where are you based? I normally get around 20-30Mb/s, my latency is generally below 20ms even during busy times. This is generally fine for streaming media like YouTube in HD or gaming. Still hoping that we will one day get the 50Mb/s packages promised but really I'm quite happy with current speeds.

Here are 2 of my recent speedtest results:

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3403960074
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3424492657

You can also find Vfast on Twitter and Facebook offering social media updates.

Any other questions, please ask. smile

VFast Wireless Broadband.
My Broadband Speed Test
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Tue 29-Apr-14 19:51:17
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I can vouch for the low pings.

Lowest has been ~9/10ms and average is normally sub 20ms.

vFast Ltd
Downstream ~24336.33 kbit/s - ~2970.74 KB/s
Upstream ~10224.86 kbit/s - ~1248.15 KB/s

Edited by Yaz (Tue 29-Apr-14 19:51:46)

Standard User Shempz
(learned) Thu 17-Jul-14 14:38:20
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Hi all,

I get ridiculously low speeds where I live in TN3 9TT on BT/Plusnet. Is anyone able to confirm what speeds I am likely to get here if I start using vFast? I see their website mentions 24mb, but is that an "up to 24mb", and reality it may only be a few mb that I get?
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Wed 23-Jul-14 19:49:45
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Hi Shempz,

Best to contact vFast directly if you have any questions.

I would say that the connection speed should be as per the packages but the throughput may be less as per peak times etc. The important point is to have line of site to a mast/repeater to actually get a signal.

vFast Ltd
Downstream ~24336.33 kbit/s - ~2970.74 KB/s
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Standard User Shempz
(learned) Fri 25-Jul-14 09:10:27
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Cheers Yaz. I placed an order with vFast on the 18th....just waiting for a call back to give me a date for an engineer visit. Fingers crossed, I'm within vFast's boundaries!
Standard User Yaz
(experienced) Mon 28-Jul-14 20:26:57
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Any luck Shempz?

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Upstream ~10224.86 kbit/s - ~1248.15 KB/s
Standard User V10Diesel
(newbie) Mon 23-Feb-15 18:31:25
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Hi, interested to know how your vfast speeds are holding up? Ive gone from hitting over 30mb to 10mb at peak times and through till after midnight. Had engineer out to check and everything is fine, so he said its congestion on the connection. When I speak to vast and they check my line I get an instant bump to 20mb and then 5 mins after the phone call speeds drop down to 10mb again. had a few tests come in at 2mb!!

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4165321682

Im on a wired connection and early morning speeds hit over 20mb no problem. Very frustrating!

Also what are your ping test results?

http://www.pingtest.net/result/117807879.png

Edited by V10Diesel (Mon 23-Feb-15 18:35:05)

Standard User slimj
(member) Mon 23-Feb-15 21:10:47
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In reply to a post by V10Diesel:
Hi, interested to know how your vfast speeds are holding up? Ive gone from hitting over 30mb to 10mb at peak times and through till after midnight. Had engineer out to check and everything is fine, so he said its congestion on the connection. When I speak to vast and they check my line I get an instant bump to 20mb and then 5 mins after the phone call speeds drop down to 10mb again. had a few tests come in at 2mb!!

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4165321682

Im on a wired connection and early morning speeds hit over 20mb no problem. Very frustrating!

Also what are your ping test results?

http://www.pingtest.net/result/117807879.png


Hi V10,

Where are you based?

There's some discussion on this thread. http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/wirelessbb/f/438922...

I've been a long time user and I am in the same boat, service has been pretty poor in the evenings and nowhere near the quoted 'superfast' speeds of 24Mb/s in the evening hours. I'm lucky to get 5Mb/s anytime between 6pm-11pm, but times when I don't want to use it (as I'm at work) it's perfect! Latency is pretty terrible in the evenings due to the congestion.

Here's my 'superfast' speeds from a (wired) test just taken - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4165709668

I have a support ticket open and it has been open since January 12th but I still do not have a resolution. Have been told I will be moved to a new transmitter once installed but nothing has happened since I was first told after an engineer visit. I'm not happy. I'm also hosting a repeater on my chimney (Manston) so it must be affecting others.

I'll be chasing this week for a resolution. Good mind to pause payment until problem gets resolved.
Standard User V10Diesel
(newbie) Tue 24-Feb-15 12:30:09
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Hi thanks for responding. Im in Pluckley and use the lenham repeater.

I was originally with them in Ashford back when max speed was 2mb and was lucky enough to be able to get their service here in Pluckley. Its a shame they have over subscribed the service, hopefully they will increase their capacity soon. Fttc is going to be everywhere in the next 2 years so they need to be competitive.
Standard User slimj
(member) Tue 24-Feb-15 18:47:51
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Hi V10,

Perhaps I spoke to soon! Spoke to VFast today and they seem to have resolved my issue as they have done some upgrades in Thanet. This has improved my connection nicely!

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4168014135 (17Mb/s / 19Mb/s)
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4168041111 (24Mb/s / 10Mb/s)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Normally at this time I'd be lucky to get 5Mb/s down! Hopefully they will resolve your issues shortly, perhaps send them a message regarding any issues?
Standard User kijoma
(committed) Tue 24-Feb-15 22:45:15
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In reply to a post by V10Diesel:
. Fttc is going to be everywhere in the next 2 years so they need to be competitive.


I am sure of Vfast and other "non BT" providers had received a fraction of the state aid BT had then the capacity would be much higher.

It is very difficult to be competitive in a commercially sustainable way when you own and operate all your infrastructure at your cost while you competition is receiving £ Billions in benefit cheques.

All the parasitic providers using BT infrastructure will not of had to invest anything in the infrastructure at all so yes they can probably offer cheaper prices and higher speeds.

Whatever happened to Localism? The country is increasingly being run by fewer and larger organisations. service and value for money will head the same way as small business, extinct.

It is sad really in my view.

Bill Lewis - MD
Kijoma Broadband
Fixed wireless ISP - ISPA/CISAS/RIPE member
Standard User slimj
(member) Wed 25-Feb-15 11:57:00
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I am sure of Vfast and other "non BT" providers had received a fraction of the state aid BT had then the capacity would be much higher.

All the parasitic providers using BT infrastructure will not of had to invest anything in the infrastructure at all so yes they can probably offer cheaper prices and higher speeds.


I am aware VFast have had grants to deploy wireless broadband in the local area. Not as much as BT in the grand scheme of things but still it's not all money invested by the company itself.

Unfortunately, without BDUK and other schemes many small villages would not likely see FTTC services at all. It would be unprofitable for BT to deploy in these locations IMO.

I do agree though that more money should go to the smaller companies for alternative types of broadband - but hey, I guess someone in parliament is getting a nice backhander from BT for all that free money!
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(committed) Wed 25-Feb-15 13:12:00
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To quote " Unfortunately, without BDUK and other schemes many small villages would not likely see FTTC services at all. It would be unprofitable for BT to deploy in these locations IMO. "

This is a valid point, anybody who runs a business knows that some parts of their business make a profit, others do not. In the case of BT they make considerable profits as has been seen by the extent of over spend on TV rights etc..

So what is inferred from this is that BT , a very profitable multinational business, willr efuse to provide a service to a village if it is not profitable / viable on its own merits?

Do you think this is a fair use of public money, to ensure a profitable business does not take on small loss making areas ?

The story is always the same once Government interfere with a commercial marketplace, it results in corruption, market distortion and the expenditure of a [censored] load of tax payers money that could otherwise benefit important public services such as the NHS etc.

In some ways I envy Vfast with Kent County Council, as they appears to have , in the past at least, a sensible approach to resolving rural Broadband issues. Identify demand, put out to tender, choose best value for money solution.

In other counties such as West Sussex they instead become very hostile to operators in their county outside their chosen Broadband strategy, i.e. BT. This results in the widespread publication of mis-information, FUD and outright lies in order to discredit these service providers.

This was most noticeable when it came to applying for cash from the BDUK pot at the start of the process. Once it became about gaining maximum share of the cash then making the Broadband situation within the county look as bad as possible was the primary aim.

Areas with 96%+ take up of a commercially provided (non funded) service were declared as having "no broadband service" at all.

They are now spending an inordinate amount of the BDUK cash running FTTP to overbuild these areas and have already targetted other areas with full existing Superfast coverage with FTTC.

Other areas of the county without superfast and no service from an independent commercial provider such as Kijoma are being left out. This includes business parks .

In my view (and others) the BDUK process is corrupt and state aid rules have been massaged beyond recognition to push this all through and as you say there has to of been some serious "incentives" to allow a competitive framework to be watered down to a monopoly and still be ratified all the way up to the EU.

Once this is all complete, be prepared to see lots of smaller wholesale ISP's go to the wall as BT Retail "competes" by offering all those non state funded *cough* TV rights over its services for free while other ISP's have to pay to re-sell it.

Once it becomes just large providers, be prepared for the equivalent service level and value for money we receive from a 2 -3 party election process.

cheers

In reply to a post by slimj:
In reply to a post by kijoma:
I am sure of Vfast and other "non BT" providers had received a fraction of the state aid BT had then the capacity would be much higher.

All the parasitic providers using BT infrastructure will not of had to invest anything in the infrastructure at all so yes they can probably offer cheaper prices and higher speeds.


I am aware VFast have had grants to deploy wireless broadband in the local area. Not as much as BT in the grand scheme of things but still it's not all money invested by the company itself.

Unfortunately, without BDUK and other schemes many small villages would not likely see FTTC services at all. It would be unprofitable for BT to deploy in these locations IMO.

I do agree though that more money should go to the smaller companies for alternative types of broadband - but hey, I guess someone in parliament is getting a nice backhander from BT for all that free money!


Bill Lewis - MD
Kijoma Broadband
Fixed wireless ISP - ISPA/CISAS/RIPE member
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(newbie) Sun 12-Apr-15 22:23:54
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Glad your speeds have been sorted. Mine have just gotten worse. Its funny how when they 'check my connection' speeds immediately jump up to 20 odd and then five mins after the phone call has ended the speed crashes again.

I have cancelled my contract and sent a letter to my mp for what it'll be worth.

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(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Apr-15 15:07:45
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sent a letter to my mp

At the moment, there is no such thing as an MP as Parliament has been prorogued in advance of the upcoming General Election. You have a former MP who may also be a candidate.

As per the constitutional convention, ministers remain ministers until a new government is formed, though they currently have little ability to act other than in emergencies or situations that are time-pressured.

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[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/4284686384.png[/IMG]

Glad your speeds have been sorted. Mine have just gotten worse. Its funny how when they 'check my connection' speeds immediately jump up to 20 odd and then five mins after the phone call has ended the speed crashes again.

I have cancelled my contract and sent a letter to my mp for what it'll be worth.


Hi V10,

That's a shame. Did you have a usage cap? Your speedtest looks like the service was capped. I say that as your latency wasn't too bad - for me I'd find that my latency would go sky high (200ms+) when I was having problems.

Connection still feels generally ok, a little slow at times but latency is much improved so the connection feels much faster even at busier times.

I'm moving to a new address this week and am continuing with VFast for the forseeable future (installation next Monday - if line of sight allows), I'm in the same area but will be connected to a different transmitter. I'm keen to see if there's a difference in performance.
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(newbie) Tue 21-Apr-15 20:11:26
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I should clarify that my letter is about speeds in my area not specifically Vfast as they have provided (on the whole) a much faster service than what my neighbours achieve.

It can get extremely frustrating. For a decent connection I'd gladly pay 10k install costs as long as the on going monthly payment was sensible. It seems Vfast have increased their back haul recently so that should help keep the connection consistent.

Best of luck with your move and getting line of sight, hopefully you don't need a.mast wink
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(member) Wed 22-Apr-15 13:41:26
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Best of luck with your move and getting line of sight, hopefully you don't need a.mast wink


Cheers. I am all moved in now. Had VFast out to do a site survey but unfortunately they couldn't get a good enough signal from my chimney! There are a fair few trees around the house so I thought this may be the case unless they could get high enough up from the chimney to clear some trees.

I have another option for an install at the bottom of the garden with no trees blocking LOS to another transmitter, but the engineers didn't have the equipment to get the antenna up high enough to clear a hedge to check (even though I originally suggested this would be an option). I'm now awaiting another survey date to check this as it's now a non-standard install.

Hopefully it won't be too long and this will be successful as I'm keen to remain with VFast as the future looks promising. Otherwise I'll be lumped with DSL speeds of 2-3mbit until FTTC is enabled (shortly) but even then we're over 1.5km from the cabinet so speeds are not going to be that great! frown
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(experienced) Wed 22-Apr-15 20:39:17
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Time to get out the chain saw laugh

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Standard User slimj
(member) Fri 24-Apr-15 15:14:04
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Time to get out the chain saw laugh


Either that or a longer pole. laugh

Still waiting for a follow up survey appointment. Made it clear to the engineer that it's likely that I'd need a 20ft pole (as a guesstimate) bracketed to a wall at the bottom of the garden to ensure perfect LOS to the best transmitter site.
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Well, time has moved on, no further response from VFast with regards to a non standard install at my new address even after chasing them several times. it's been 2 months, no apologies either! I guess being a loyal customer and assisting with trials and hosting a repeater gets you nowhere.

I have since signed up to a DSL service and can upgrade to fibre once my phone line and connection is enabled (wasn't available at time of DSL order, typical!), should get up to 20mbit. I waited 2 months for VFast to sort themselves out and get the new survey done but I couldn't wait any longer.

We still had VFast at our Manston property, but as FTTC was available (up to 76mbit) I have since cancelled the VFast service. We now gets faster speeds even during busy times, lower latency, completely unlimited, and cheaper.

It's a shame, this was once a great service but it feels like it's beginning to fall apart! frown
Standard User slimj
(member) Tue 23-Oct-18 17:04:55
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Been a while since I've been on this thread!

Anyone still with VFast? How is the service these days?

I did notice a recent article on ISPreview here regarding faster services incoming.

Would be interested to see if this materialises as the previous promise of faster speeds never really happened.

Darren, would happily re-sign up to the service if (a) it delivers on the promise during peak hours, (b) a solution can be found to getting round trees, and (c) is reasonably priced...! (there are a few of us in our little area that would probably sign up actually).
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