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Standard User John_ON
(knowledge is power) Tue 21-Feb-12 15:19:37
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BBC website


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Hi Guys,

Are any of you seeing tremendous persistent packet loss to the BBC website at all times of the day....

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=245
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 1, Lost = 3 (75% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 22ms


Thanks,

John.

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Standard User Pipexer
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 21-Feb-12 18:33:37
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Re: BBC website


[re: John_ON] [link to this post]
 
Not here,

Usual question, you knew it was coming, what does a pathping (since hop 8 is shy pathping doesn't proceed) tracert say? Whereabouts is it happening?

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Edited by Pipexer (Tue 21-Feb-12 18:36:07)

Standard User techguy
(committed) Tue 21-Feb-12 19:25:05
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Re: BBC website


[re: Pipexer] [link to this post]
 
Just tried a ping myself, 0% loss.

Tracert is below

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.71]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

(first hop removed for obvious reasons as have fixed IP)
2 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms losubs.subs.dsl2.th-lon.zen.net.uk [62.3.84.21]

3 13 ms 29 ms 12 ms ae0-114.cr1.th-lon.zen.net.net [62.3.84.185]
4 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 82.71.254.134
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
8 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 132.185.255.148
9 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms bbc-vip116.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.71]

Trace complete.

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Standard User Ripley
(committed) Tue 21-Feb-12 21:11:47
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Re: BBC website


[re: John_ON] [link to this post]
 
seems fine on my Zen connection

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Paul Brown>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=245

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 19ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Users\Paul Brown>ping bbc.co.uk

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=245

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 20ms, Average = 18ms

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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 21-Feb-12 21:55:02
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Re: BBC website


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If I use ping plotter to ping www.bbc.co.uk it pings to a different IP than the one you posted. A couple of hops don't respond, but the link is good at around 30ms.

Then on the IP you posted I get a single hop which doesn't respond to pings, and another (132.185.255.148) which showed a couple of dropped packets.

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Scottish Labour politician: “The SNP are on a very dangerous tack. What they are doing is trying to build up a situation in Scotland where the services are manifestly better than south of the border in a number of areas.”

Interviewer: ”Is that a bad thing?”

Scottish Labour politician: “No, but they are doing it deliberately.”
Standard User John_ON
(knowledge is power) Fri 24-Feb-12 20:49:36
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Re: BBC website


[re: Pipexer] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Pipexer:
Not here,

Usual question, you knew it was coming, what does a pathping (since hop 8 is shy pathping doesn't proceed) tracert say? Whereabouts is it happening?


It started behaving itself shortly after I made the above post but it's back to usual now:

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.68:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 2, Lost = 18 (90% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 22ms

C:\Users\John>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.93]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 25 ms 99 ms 99 ms 192.168.1.254
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * 27 ms 10.1.3.214
5 * * 25 ms 10.1.2.158
6 * * 23 ms bbc-gw1-linx.prt0.thdoe.bbc.co.uk [195.66.226.103]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * 24 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
9 23 ms 27 ms 24 ms 132.185.255.165
10 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms bbc-vip014.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.93]

Trace complete.

BE are claiming it's a problem within the BBC network but seem to be the only ISP affected.. I'll give them a couple of weeks, then I'll have had enough. 17 seconds average to load every single BBC webpage is no joke!


John.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 25-Feb-12 02:11:44
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To compare. On interleaved line on Vivaciti Surfwise Variety. BTW thanks for Routerstats.

Pinging bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=245
Reply from 212.58.241.131: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=245

Ping statistics for 212.58.241.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 32ms

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
2 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms hg03-gw.tn3.o-bit.net.128.107.77.in-addr.arpa [7
7.107.128.119]
3 32 ms 32 ms 37 ms abr01v9.tn3.o-bit.net [77.107.129.49]
4 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms 252.128.107.77.in-addr.arpa [77.107.128.252]
5 33 ms 32 ms 33 ms gi3-0-3.ar01.tn5.bb.gxn.net [212.241.240.161]
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 37 ms 33 ms 32 ms ae1.er01.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.46]
9 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms 132.185.255.134
10 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms 212.58.241.131

Trace complete.

Tim
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