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Standard User rippedcotton
(experienced) Mon 09-Jul-12 19:51:00
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Exchange now 21CN, Zen migration date set - end result?


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I currently have ADSLMax on my line and my exchange recently was 21CN enabled so Zen are now going to migrate me to WBMC kit instead of the IPstream or IPSC that I have now.

Can anyone tell me if that results in an ADSL profile on the WBMC service, or does it automatically get regraded to ADSL2?

For the time being I would rather not upset the applecart because my line is not totally stable even though it manages 4.5Mbps or so sync rate, I just wondered what is going to happen in a bit more detail.

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Brian

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Standard User jphilip
(member) Mon 09-Jul-12 23:28:37
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Re: Exchange now 21CN, Zen migration date set - end result?


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After Zen migrate your line it remains as ADSL and you will find an option to regrade to ADSL2 in the portal. However at that kind of sync speed it might not be worthwhile unless the extra upload speed is of interest.

Edited by jphilip (Mon 09-Jul-12 23:29:32)

ISP Representative SkyFire
(isp) Tue 10-Jul-12 11:14:18
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Re: Exchange now 21CN, Zen migration date set - end result?


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In reply to a post by jphilip:
After Zen migrate your line it remains as ADSL and you will find an option to regrade to ADSL2 in the portal. However at that kind of sync speed it might not be worthwhile unless the extra upload speed is of interest.

Agreed - generally below 6 meg you have a reduced chance of seeing faster speeds - and can even see slower speeds on ADSL2+. We generally wouldn't recommend regrading a 4.5 meg line.

regards,
Phil.

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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 10-Jul-12 12:11:37
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Re: Exchange now 21CN, Zen migration date set - end result?


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My line used to sync at 4544 on ADSL1.

I regraded to 21CN and forced my router to connect on ADSL2 instead of 2+.

Running at 6700 now on a 3db SNR - 48db attenuation.

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Xilo.net Office 21CN
Standard User finn123
(experienced) Wed 11-Jul-12 11:49:07
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Re: Exchange now 21CN, Zen migration date set - end result?


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SamKnows says our local exchange has a 21CN WBC RFS date of 30/09/2012.

The line currently gets 5383 kbps download and 369 kbps upload on a speed test.

The router (Vigor 2820n) says:

Up speed 448,000
Down speed 6,752,000
SNR 14
Loop Att 35

We're about 1.5 miles (2.4km) from the telephone exchange.

The Vigor can load a specific firmware update to accommodate ADSL2+.
http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/downloads.html
http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/download/readme_v28...

With the 2820n, the line is rock solid reliable. An old SpeedTouch router constantly dropped the line, but I really think that was down to the router rather than the line.

Looking at the stats, can anyone tell me if the line would be good enough for ADSL2+?

How soon after the RFS date would I be able to upgrade?

Thanks

Finn

ZeN
I doubt, therefore I doubt I am.

Edited by finn123 (Wed 11-Jul-12 11:54:35)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 11-Jul-12 12:03:11
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You could get 10 Meg on ADSL2+, but you are currently running about 1 Meg slow on ADSL.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 11-Jul-12 12:03:29
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On a line with 35db you could be pushing 10-11Mb easily - looks like you may have a noise problem though if it's not running at 8128 on ADSL1.

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Xilo.net Office 21CN
Standard User finn123
(experienced) Wed 11-Jul-12 12:07:56
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Many thanks for the 2 replies above.

Anything I can do to investigate/rectify the noise problem?

TIA

Finn

ZeN
I doubt, therefore I doubt I am.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 11-Jul-12 12:30:48
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In first instance, grab a set of stats from the master sockets internal test socket

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Standard User finn123
(experienced) Wed 11-Jul-12 12:42:38
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You mean take the plate off the front of the master socket, plug a filter into the internal test socket, plug the router into that and then re do the speed test and see what the Vigor connects at?

TIA

Finn

ZeN
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