Plusnet R the Best!

Been moved to plusnet for 2 months now, What a great network!
Very friendly and helpful staff!

Highly Recomend them!

What problems have you had?

Rather unobservant!

Not at all!

You had a responce from the OP about PN here, prior to this post so your question is somewhat provocative it seems to me. It seems the OP same as your good self will not put up with poor service and is not shy to say so if the posts regarding BT are anything to go by.

Different strokes for different folks.........sort of gives a purpose to our forums don't you think?

Not everyone sees the world through your eyes.

In reply to a post by Sadoldman:

You had a responce from the OP about PN here, prior to this post so your question is somewhat provocative it seems to me. It seems the OP same as your good self will not put up with poor service and is not shy to say so if the posts regarding BT are anything to go by.

Different strokes for different folks.........sort of gives a purpose to our forums don't you think?

Not everyone sees the world through your eyes.

Not everyone sees the world through your power-crazed eyes. I had NOT linked the OP to the other post. Unlike some anoraks, I have better things to do than scrutinise every post in order to nitpick.
My post was not half as provocative as yours. Anyone with a grain of sense would realise why I was asking what problems he had. We all get the same down OpenReach copper, which makes ALL ISPs superb while things are running correctly. It's only after a problem that a fair appraisal can be given. Superb or otherwise. So how about you get off my back till I actually break the rules. If that request causes your usual banning Hissyfit, so be it.

In reply to a post by professor973:

Not everyone sees the world through your power-crazed eyes. I had NOT linked the OP to the other post. Unlike some anoraks, I have better things to do than scrutinise every post in order to nitpick.
My post was not half as provocative as yours. Anyone with a grain of sense would realise why I was asking what problems he had. We all get the same down OpenReach copper, which makes ALL ISPs superb while things are running correctly. It's only after a problem that a fair appraisal can be given. Superb or otherwise. So how about you get off my back till I actually break the rules. If that request causes your usual banning Hissyfit, so be it.

Oh!

I like your sig . Both lines of it.

The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits.
http://www.pingtest.net/result/68380009.png

Pity about your latency and jitter though.

http://www.pingtest.net/result/68760870.png

Whilst I understand the sentiment the 100 miles difference the 2 of you have to the test server would most likely account for much of the ping change. It would only be fair to compare them on the same line with the 2 different providers to provide a close comparison. Perhaps professor has a similar result from when on Plusnet that would give that proper comparison?

It's interesting that, . It had me wondering before I posted.

The thing is, I'm 11 miles south of the centre of Manchester. So over 100 miles to Milton Keynes. In fact considerably more than that, as if I'm right, I route through Manchester, so we have ~ 112 + 11 = 123, or 115 + 12, depending on which "crow's flight" estimate you get and add the distance to Dialstone House in Manchester.

So that 50 miles has to be more like the distance to where my IP address is registered, not where I am. But that's probably Shefffield, 92 crow miles from MK.

Given that I'm 400 odd miles from Milton Keynes, I think the pingtest distance aspect relates to the ping between the pingtest server and the last Plusnet node (see my pingtest data in my sig).

My guess is that the network routes via London (London - Sheffield = 160miles). Pure guess though.

I wonder what conorMK gets?

In reply to a post by ian72:

Whilst I understand the sentiment the 100 miles difference the 2 of you have to the test server would most likely account for much of the ping change. It would only be fair to compare them on the same line with the 2 different providers to provide a close comparison. Perhaps professor has a similar result from when on Plusnet that would give that proper comparison?

Whatever the server, I found Plusnet more Pong than Ping!!!
http://speedtest.net/result/2042456161.png
http://speedtest.net/result/1581329742.png

Edited by professor973 (Fri 31-Aug-12 17:37:54)

The speedtest servers always give worse pings than the pingtest servers. See mine.

In reply to a post by camieabz:

The speedtest servers always give worse pings than the pingtest servers. See mine.

I have never been able to get to the bottom of that. Speedtest & Pingtest sites seem to be linked, but even tests to the same apparent server vary wildly.

All Plusnet connections terminate in their London data centres where they have their peering links to the rest of the internet.

Thanks.

I did a speedtest.net speed test not long ago, one MK and one Namesco. Both gave the < 50 mile figure, so what you say makes sense.

So are they pinging my router, or a PN one in London? Or timing the first hop to get a distance and the user IP address for the real test? That's the only way that would make sense, just rendering the distance figure irrelevant.

speedtest.net is just doing a Geo IP on the registered address for the IP block

Thanks. IIRC that's what said earlier I though must be happening. However a WHOIS lookup on my IP address semi-failed. Gives nothing beyond PN at Sheffield. My O2 one used to give the Be Zone.

The distance they give is rubbish - it's based on your IP address using data from when people give their location on various web sites.

I've never revealed my location and get wildly different figures. Currently it's giving me http://speedtest.net/result/2152366770.png - I'm over 100 miles from London!

In reply to a post by jelv:

The distance they give is rubbish - it's based on your IP address using data from when people give their location on various web sites.

I've never revealed my location and get wildly different figures. Currently it's giving me http://speedtest.net/result/2152366770.png - I'm over 100 miles from London!

Lots of discussion since I posted and clearly I was reading something into the distance that just isn't true. Never actually considered before how they got the distance - guess if I had thought about it then it would have been clear it was a nonsense number.

Has anyone considered asking speedtest.net?

https://support.speedtest.net/entries/20841296-why-i...

So I wonder why they go through all this lowest ping rubbish. The Sheffield server always gives much faster tests for me despite being located at the other end of the UK.

Where are the Entanet gateways located?

http://noc.enta.net/ipsc-interconnect-status/
I'm on Stepneygreen

Edited by professor973 (Mon 03-Sep-12 12:24:22)

Could you post the output from a tracert please.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 28 ms 25 ms 24 ms lns18.inx.dsl.enta.net [188.39.1.30]
3 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms gi1-8.inx.dist.dsl.enta.net [188.39.1.29]
4 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms te2-2.interxion.dsl.enta.net [78.33.141.89]
5 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms te2-3.interxion.core.enta.net [87.127.236.209]
6 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms te5-1.gs1.core.enta.net [87.127.236.85]
7 25 ms 24 ms 44 ms te2-3.redbus-hex.core.enta.net [87.127.236.46]
8 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms dns.fritz.box [195.74.113.62]

Trace complete.