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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 06-Nov-12 17:15:43
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using Fibre on an extension socket


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Hi

I was thinking to upgrade to Fibre Plus but one issue I have is that my current master socket is in a rather useless location in the basement and I usually put my router in on the first floor extension on the first floor of the house for better wireless coverage.

These are the only two connections. I had heard that it is possible to use the extension as the master socket rather than the master socket (in fact from my point of view, the current master socket is irrelevent).

Has anyone had this done or does this only apply to BT customers?

Thanks in advance
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(deleted) Tue 06-Nov-12 17:19:35
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Hi there,

When you order fibre there's an option to add an extension kit (for free) to the install. The engineer who comes will then install this anywhere it'll reach - anywhere up to 30M away as the wire travels so you should be able to get it where you need it smile

Hope that helps.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 06-Nov-12 17:20:37
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Home Wiring Solution at install time will allow you to have a 30m extension from the master socket. if you have good twisted pair wiring now then the engineer might repurpose it for you.

How Wiring Solution is available for free to all FTTC providers, they just need to order it when you order service.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 06-Nov-12 17:35:29
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Thanks.

I was trying to avoid the extension as I had the cabling from the master socket to the extension nicely put internally in flooring/walls etc. so I was trying to avoid this if I could.

So is this supplied as a modem with an ethernet cable outlet and the extension is simply a long cat 5 cable?
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(staff) Tue 06-Nov-12 17:51:24
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The openreach modem links to your router via an ethernet cable, that is just an ethernet cable.

The Home Wiring Solution is about the cable that plugs into the Openreach modem carrying the VDSL signal. If you can locate the modem in the basement, then nothing stopping you using ethernet, homeplugs or other solution to get the ethernet out of the modem to your router upstairs.

If the existing extension cable is good twisted pair cable, then it can be reused, but be aware that the more wiring between cabinet and the openreach modem the slower it will run. 30m can mean a speed drop of a couple of meg.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 07-Nov-12 12:34:08
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When you order fibre there's an option to add an extension kit (for free) to the install.

I'm guessing you mean that's available on the PN web form... and not on an Openreach form we (end users) don't see...
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(deleted) Wed 07-Nov-12 15:42:22
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Yes, you have the option to take the extension kit when signing up for fibre through our site.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 07-Nov-12 18:46:20
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The Home Wiring Solution is about the cable that plugs into the Openreach modem carrying the VDSL signal.

...

If the existing extension cable is good twisted pair cable, then it can be reused, but be aware that the more wiring between cabinet and the openreach modem the slower it will run. 30m can mean a speed drop of a couple of meg.


Thanks for the good information
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(deleted) Wed 07-Nov-12 19:02:45
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
If the existing extension cable is good twisted pair cable, then it can be reused, but be aware that the more wiring between cabinet and the openreach modem the slower it will run. 30m can mean a speed drop of a couple of meg.



Oddly enough speed is not my main interest - it is mainly that I keep going over my 60Gb limit or having to jump through hoops to arrange downloads at night etc, that I was interested in the 250GB limit for £19.99 vs £11.49 for 60GB plus £5/5Gb which makes the cost effective. I am actualy happy with my current 10Mb speed, so if using the extenstion was possible I would not have a problem (I think plusnet are indicating about 40Mb speed anyway).
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(staff) Wed 07-Nov-12 19:35:58
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So a case of asking engineer in a reasonable way at the time of the install and if they say no, then arrive at a compromise and if that is no good, do a DIY solution to get things working exactly how you want.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 07-Nov-12 20:09:09
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The engineer carries exterior grade cabling in his van which can be used for the Home Wiring Solution. So as long as your within the 30 metres he can run it outside. (I believe the 30m isn't a hard and fast rule either. Just the standard internal one I think is 30m long).

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Wed 07-Nov-12 22:29:53
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So why didn't you go for the 120GB Legacy Plusnet Premium (ADSL1/2+) account?

Go to https://portal.plus.net/wizard/?wizard_id=20 and take the Extra Usage option.

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001

Edited by jelv (Wed 07-Nov-12 22:42:35)

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(deleted) Thu 08-Nov-12 09:36:32
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Wow

How did you find that one! That is well hidden away. Is this a legacy product or is this going to be a replacement product? I am sure with competition from more and more Unlimited offers, upping the 60G would make sense.
Standard User kasg
(experienced) Thu 08-Nov-12 09:46:17
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In reply to a post by ismoore999:
Is this a legacy product or is this going to be a replacement product?

Well technically it's a trial add-on to an existing product (I can't remember how much they are charging for it), but I would question its VFM compared to the 250GB fibre product. And once you have fibre speed you may change your mind about not needing it!

Kevin

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Edited by kasg (Thu 08-Nov-12 09:47:49)

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(deleted) Thu 08-Nov-12 15:51:57
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I'm inclined to agree that when the difference is only three pounds then there seems little reason not to go fibre speed and get double the download limit.
Seems like plus net have missed the point here. Why not change their punitive 5gb for a fiver when you go over the limit to a fiver for another 120gb? This is often criticised when reviewing their offering.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 08-Nov-12 16:06:28
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When it costs them £30 to £40 per Mbps above contract over a month, you can see why 120GB for £5 more not not be ideal for a company

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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(deleted) Thu 08-Nov-12 17:48:49
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So why didn't you go for the 120GB Legacy Plusnet Premium (ADSL1/2+) account?

To be fair, it's likely that very few customers even know of that page, let alone product. It's a tiny number of customers and enthusiasts (plus PN staff) who'd be able to link to the right place, and I suspect even some newer PN staff would not know of that one.

Thanks for opening my eyes, too, about it. I may have heard of it once but do not remember when...
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