Migrated today !

Just migrated from O2 via IDnet, Must admit very impressed with IDnet as a whole.

Lets hope Plusnet live up to the levels of IDnet

using my 7800n as the tg582n was [censored] on O2 so no doubt any different with plusnet

sync at 16200 @23 Att 6.0db profile

so after 10 days or so I ask for a lower snr profile

good news is that I am on fastpath already

so far so good


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/f0002dca01d...

got interleave depth of 1 so I am thinking it is fastpath

hmm just bought static ip as your ip changes every PPP drop

Come as standard and Free with Ola!

Edited by professor973 (Wed 10-Apr-13 13:45:21)

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

got interleave depth of 1 so I am thinking it is fastpath

Correct. Down and up.

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

got interleave depth of 1 so I am thinking it is fastpath

Can that be checked somewhere?

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

hmm just bought static ip as your ip changes every PPP drop

I did the same as only was one payment of £5 and I have been changing the router lots of times the last couple of days

In reply to a post by xtermy:

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

got interleave depth of 1 so I am thinking it is fastpath

Can that be checked somewhere?

If you have the HG612 modem it is easy to unlock. That's how you get the stats.

If you have the ECI modem that can be hacked but nothing like as easily.

I have an ECI /r and I have been checking lately how to hack it but is something I can't do.

I did also check about the HG612 unlock and is an easy thing to do. I have been looking on ebay recently to buy a cheap one.

Out of interest, why did you leave IDNet ?

I'm still weighing-up the various FTTC ISPs... I thought IDNet did fibre too, no ?

I guess that your reply was for RobertoS and not me

or perhaps the person who started the thread?

how rude some members can be !

I left because of price in all honesty, £25.80 for adsl2+ is quite expensive let alone the 100gb cap, I am use to paying £90 a year with O2.

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

or perhaps the person who started the thread?

how rude some members can be !

I left because of price in all honesty, £25.80 for adsl2+ is quite expensive let alone the 100gb cap, I am use to paying £90 a year with O2.

Huh.. who's being rude to whom ?

I was asking a genuine question. I'd assumed you had gone for Plusnet fibre... which is why I was asking why you'd left IDNet.. who also have fibre.

Maybe I misunderstood.

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Huh.. who's being rude to whom ?

I was asking a genuine question. I'd assumed you had gone for Plusnet fibre... which is why I was asking why you'd left IDNet.. who also have fibre.

Maybe I misunderstood.

I think we should forget the "rudeness" bit, it's arisen from several confusions .

The thing is you earlier replied to xtermy, not to the post/poster you were putting the question to. Look at the post headers for the links.

xtermy pointed out to you you didn't mean to reply to him, and Stanman replied to xtermy. You were out of the loop after you made the mistake . It's a mistake we all make when fairly new to these forums.

All posts have a reply button on these forums, so you can reply directly to the post you are on about, not just add a post at the end. You probably aren't used to it.

I expect my name came into it because I also left IDNet FTTC to come to Plusnet.

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Huh.. who's being rude to whom ?

I was asking a genuine question. I'd assumed you had gone for Plusnet fibre... which is why I was asking why you'd left IDNet.. who also have fibre.

Maybe I misunderstood.

I think we should forget the "rudeness" bit, it's arisen from several confusions .

The thing is you earlier replied to xtermy, not to the post/poster you were putting the question to. Look at the post headers for the links.

xtermy pointed out to you you didn't mean to reply to him, and Stanman replied to xtermy. You were out of the loop after you made the mistake . It's a mistake we all make when fairly new to these forums.

All posts have a reply button on these forums, so you can reply directly to the post you are on about, not just add a post at the end. You probably aren't used to it.

I expect my name came into it because I also left IDNet FTTC to come to Plusnet.

Probably been in forums longer than the lot of you put together.
(I was the 7th person in the UK to have the original flavour of IPStream on beta (pre BT's own Retail offering)
But heh. Whatever..... unsubscribed.

Edited by deleted (Wed 10-Apr-13 23:30:41)

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Probably been in forums longer than the lot of you put together.

Really? You seem too young for that

Post deleted by Sadoldman

No, censor avoidance will see to that.

Censor avoidance does it every time.

Well, he never got the point anyway!

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

Well, he never got the point anyway!

Not sure if you chaps are referring to me. Care to explain?

thanks for wrecking my thread

pats on the back all round

if you can be arsed to post off topic create your own thread

In reply to a post by Stanman_24:

thanks for wrecking my thread

pats on the back all round

if you can be arsed to post off topic create your own thread

Apologies. I had no intention of going off topic. I simply asked a question.
Somehow (I and I still don't understand how or why), I seem to have offended.

I think somebody misunderstood somewhere. To the best of my own logic, it wasn't me.
As I say, sorry for whatever I did wrong.

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Apologies. I had no intention of going off topic. I simply asked a question.
Somehow (I and I still don't understand how or why), I seem to have offended.

I think somebody misunderstood somewhere. To the best of my own logic, it wasn't me.
As I say, sorry for whatever I did wrong.

There was nothing really wrong with the question, though it was a bit off topic.

It was the fact you asked xtermy why he left IDNet, when as far as we know he was never with them, then got all uppity about your superior experience of forums compared to the rest of us when that caused a bit of a stir.

Finally, censor avoidance came into it. So the post got zapped!

In reply to a post by RobertoS:

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Apologies. I had no intention of going off topic. I simply asked a question.
Somehow (I and I still don't understand how or why), I seem to have offended.

I think somebody misunderstood somewhere. To the best of my own logic, it wasn't me.
As I say, sorry for whatever I did wrong.

There was nothing really wrong with the question, though it was a bit off topic.

It was the fact you asked xtermy why he left IDNet, when as far as we know he was never with them, then got all uppity about your superior experience of forums compared to the rest of us when that caused a bit of a stir.



Finally, censor avoidance came into it. So the post got zapped!

I guess this must be your own personal forum judging by your attitude. It used to be so friendly.
I was actually replying to the OP, not xtermy.
Just let the guy have his thread back.

Edited by deleted (Thu 11-Apr-13 13:29:23)

At least I can read and understand what you say.

Was my explanation of the links in the headers so difficult? Seeing as I was perfectly friendly about it when I explained, and you got so upset at the OP and others that you started talking about rudeness and then resorted to bad language?

I thought explaining to you what went wrong would be taken as friendly. If you want to take it as a bad attitude, there isn't much I can do about that.

Sorry.

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

I was actually replying to the OP, not xtermy.

No, you didn't, altho' you might have thought you were:

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

TimsterRS4
(newbie)
Wed 10-Apr-13 19:12:40

Re: Migrated today !
[re: xtermy] [link to this post] [report this post]

That ^^^^^ shows you replying to xtermy.

That's where all the confusion kicked off. This was explained to you in a friendly helpful fashion, but you seem to have taken unwarranted umbrage .

EDIT: Also to add to the confusion, your intended Q of the OP was about migrating Fibre, whereas it is obvious that OP is on ADSL only.

Edited by XRaySpeX (Thu 11-Apr-13 14:31:34)

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

EDIT: Also to add to the confusion, your intended Q of the OP was about migrating Fibre, whereas it is obvious that OP is on ADSL only.

Correct. That is where I made my initial mistake. For which I apologise.

I really shouldn't bother replying as I do appreciate that we are all collectively being rude to the original poster. If you want to start another thread, I will gladly slog it out there.

However, for the sake of record.
What I actually took "umbrage" to was the patronising comment "All posts have a reply button on these forums, so you can reply directly to the post you are on about, not just add a post at the end. You probably aren't used to it."
Which is why I replied in the same manner. (And like it or not, I probably have been on forums for a lot longer than most. And the bulletin boards before that, and uunet etc before that...... And I was very instigative in the original rollout of xDSL BB to the UK) None of which I would have needed to mention if above comment hadn't been unnecessarily made.

Indeed it was the same comment that encouraged me to reply in a subsequent post that RobertoS had a bad attitude.
The sad thing is, I could have potentially brought some alternative knowledge to these forums, just like in the good old days of "adslguide".

Whilst I'm sure this post will probably be deleted by the Mod' because I'm potentially upsetting your little gang, I hope you'll leave it long enough that my reply is at least temporarily visible.

It is for me to acknowledge whether my naivety has let me down.

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Whilst I'm sure this post will probably be deleted by the Mod' because I'm potentially upsetting your little gang,

Ummm! Shows how extensive your experience of discussion groups is. Post are never deleted solely for differences of opinion; only for breaking of site rules, like swearing. And I, personally, have no power to delete posts.

In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Whilst I'm sure this post will probably be deleted by the Mod' because I'm potentially upsetting your little gang,

Ummm! Shows how extensive your experience of discussion groups is. Post are never deleted solely for differences of opinion; only for breaking of site rules, like swearing. And I, personally, have no power to delete posts.

Remind me again. What swear word did I use? No really, I've forgotten.
I suspect however that I would have included wildcards "*" so as not to offend any delicate eyes.

Edited by deleted (Thu 11-Apr-13 15:47:24)

oki guys calm down

start your own thread lol

Censor avoidance by using "wildcards" is against the forum rules.

In reply to a post by TimsterRS4:

Correct. That is where I made my initial mistake. For which I apologise.

OK! end of please.

Posting to the wrong poster can be confusing, many newbies (and to this forum you are) make that mistake so it was not an unreasonable assumption to make when providing info on the correct method. Members were trying to help.

As I say end of....what was this thread about now?

Interesting that in the hoo-hah I'd completely lost the fact you were on ADSL2+ until XRaySpeX pointed it out.

Re a question in your opening post - "so after 10 days or so I ask for a lower snr profile". Nope.

The 10 days is a period when the BT Wholesale system merely notes your lowest connection speed and sets that as the Maximum Stable Rate. From that it calculates the Fault Threshold Rate, either 70% or 80% of the MSR.

The value doesn't really matter any more. The FTR used to be the figure above which you would have a heck of a job getting a sync speed problem reported by your ISP to BT Wholesale, as the reply from BTW would be that it was still within range.

Now it seems to be ignored and if you have a connection that works at all then you can have a fight on your hands getting it looked into properly. It probably started soon after Openreach started charging over £100 for "No fault found", even when there evidently is one - just they couldn't find it.

The SNRM is determined by the DLM and runs from the first connection forever. As far as I know you can't ask for it to be set to 3dB like you could on O2, but some time last year the DLM was modified, and given a sufficiently stable line it drops it to 3dB automatically after a several days. Whether it won't do that until after the first 10 days I don't know - that would seem logical.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 11-Apr-13 21:16:01)

they dropped it automatically today around 3pm

snr is now 3.0 down

sync at 18mb

that's service for you

interleave depth is still 1

That's brilliant . Three days and still within the ten. Assuming the ten does re-start on a simple migration, but that's another question again.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 11-Apr-13 22:20:35)