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I am asking this trivial question due to multi-users in my family and each user wanted to have their own e-mail accounts. My existing O2 ADSL2+ account can support that and I will expect the Plusnet's unlimited fibre, which I'm think of migrating to next few day, will do the same!
I will certainly appreciate anyone to confirm that to me ASAP as I'm thinking of migrating to PlusNet within the next day if the above is true. Thanks
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AIUI you can keep the O2 accounts anyway. Anyone can have one, like gmail. You don't even need to be a customer in the first place.
I wonder what will happen to that though, once Sky are in charge. Hmmm  . O2 will still have email facilities for mobile use.
A better idea would be to solve the problem for good, and never have to change again. Now would be the ideal time, as you could do it tomorrow and not have to worry ever again.
Have a read of this page. £18.34 per year including your own domain.
Re Plusnet, see this Help page.
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Yup I agree with RobertoS I went over to a pair of domains and a paid for mail service on each 7 years ago and haven't looked back since.
It really is quite a small amount of money to get your own ISP independant service.
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Adrian - who do you host with?
The lowest Tsohost package will service two domains. (Domains paid for separately of course).
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I have 10 Plusnet mailboxes plus a number of redirects and a far greater number of aliases (when registering on websites I use john01@... john02@... so if one gets compromised I (a) know who is to blame and (b) can ditch it by redirecting that address to a black hole).
jelv
Plusnet user since November 2001
Edited by jelv (Thu 25-Apr-13 22:55:00)
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AIUI you can keep the O2 accounts (plural) anyway. Can you be sure about that? How are multi email addys done with O2? Is it a primary addy + secondary ones you get with BB? If so, like AOL, you probably only get to keep the primary one.
To answer my own Qs ...
Yes, you do get a primary email addy when you sign up for O2 BB or you had one previously from any mobile #: * An email address. Everyone who registers at o2.co.uk gets a free email address. You don't need to be an O2 customer to make use of this � though you get enhanced services if you are. Then you get some more with your BB: * O2 Home Broadband users get even more. O2 Home Broadband users get 10 email address. This means they can have backup email addresses or give them out to friends and family. These email addresses also have extra features such as increased email storage space. You can certainly keep the primary addy, but unlikely you can keep the secondaries when you leave.
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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Can't argue with that  .
I wonder if there's anything to stop the "lost" addresses then being chosen as free-standing? Though all history could be lost depending on how the user goes about it.
Preservation of history is something that needs to be done correctly in any case, if needed, whichever way he chooses to proceed.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 25-Apr-13 23:22:47)
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Not clear what you mean by history? Don't see how the previous user can go about anything about it.
If a "lost" addy is reused by O2 site (for a new user) it will start with an empty mailbox. Previous BB user's email history will have been removed. Daresay O2 will keep the addy in limbo for a period 1st.
From your memory of O2, is there any syntactical relationship between the multi addys of a user?
1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
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From your memory of O2, is there any syntactical relationship between the multi addys of a user?
No, the username of [email protected] doesn't have to bear any relationship to that of the primary account.
Oliver.
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Not clear what you mean by history? Don't see how the previous user can go about anything about it. If using POP3 it isn't much of a problem as you already have them downloaded.
If using IMAP, (I think O2 is IMAP and webmail only), then I don't know what happens if the host is closed, but my solution when changing host was to move everything to corresponding folders in Local Folders, then back again once connected to the new host. They all uploaded sweetly, including sub-folders .
If using only webmail then IMAP is the way to go, then as above.
A bit of care is needed as well due to the time for MX record propagation. So you need to create new accounts in the email client, not just change the logon and server details.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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I'd tend to suggest using free forwarding to a GMail account (registering a domain, of course).
As I rent hosting (where, unlike a number of services, they have multiple mail servers, rather than using the same server as my web sites reside) I haven't been looking for domain registration with free forwarding, but feel sure it's fairly easy to obtain.
Of course some people wrongly assume you need a web site to go with a domain, so might find it a little odd to have <familyname> domain for just e-mail.
For registering on websites I routinely use Spamgourmet.com which allows tracking of mail in a way similar to jelv's use to protect against spam, and protects my GMail accounts from plenty of junk. If a site ever sells the mail addresses, or gets hacked, I can be sure Spamgourmet will handle the junk.
Spamgourmet is a free service (which accepts donations).
Edited by deleted (Fri 26-Apr-13 12:13:28)
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You're welcome to do that, but I find the mere idea of google handling all my emails utterly shuddery.
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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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I use 1 and 1 for their mail only package and they kindly keep up the registration of my two domains on auto repeat, which is exactly what I wanted in a hosting company.
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I've often considered them, but never found their prices or volume of adverse comments attractive. Tsohost normally answer the phone in less than a minute and tickets nearly as quick, 24/7. And if I have the occasional bout of thickness, they are very patient and helpful.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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To be honest I have never had to use phone support or email in the 7 years I have been with them and I am still on a deal I got in 2006 which they don't seem to be in any rush moving me onto the new pricing.
If they did I may be looking to be moving my business elsewhere,
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(I think O2 is IMAP and webmail only)
O2 email doesn't support IMAP, just POP3 and webmail (and SMTP for sending of course).
Oliver.
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Ditto here. I use 1and1 to host my personal e-mail accounts on a single domain name. It's a few quid a year. On top of that I get five sub-domains to play with, which is useful. My websites are hosted with TSOHOST. I have two sites, both hosted with their most basic package. Both sites have e-mail accounts associated with them, most of which are aliases. Can't say I've had any problems with either provider.
Andrew
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As it happens, I don't just use GMail, but Fastmail and have used Runbox in the past. Not sure why you'd find GMail anything to worry about... they're really very welcome to some 100,000+ mail messages that have come in on my {several} GMail accounts. Marketing-wise they can do what they like but I see no adverts and have no major complaints with how it all works.
Darn site easier than using POP mail, with the mix of mobile / tablet / linux / Win XP, Win 7 / OSX devices I have here... and yes, I suppose I could use IMAP, but really have no wish to waste disk space on much of the mail, some being store promotion, some notification about new items on Ebay, Amazon, etc, plus a few tens of thousands of daily archives from TBB, and so forth.
Useful to me to be able to access, yes, "lost" if deleted, no.
Edited by deleted (Fri 26-Apr-13 15:19:28)
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In some ways that's simpler then, and just means downloading everything, if one wants to keep it, though I must admit it's some (7+) years since I have bothered with POP mail...
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It is a generally a good idea to have your email independent from your ISP. I have lost count of the people who have complained about poor service from their ISP but refuse to switch because they would have to change email addresses.
Perhaps the most elegant thing to do is register your own domain name as most domain hosts will offer a mail forwarding service that will re-direct your email to an address of your choice. Alternatively if that sounds a bit overly complex then use one of the free email services like Gmail.
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In the PN Live-Chat which I had taken part recently, I have been assured that I can have up to 5 Users Accounts including the primary User Account using POP3SMTP. I have agreed with you guys that it is much better to have an ISPs' independent e-mail address, which I also have using with "Google". So I have joined up Plusnet "unlimited Fibre broadband" yesterday online, and my PN's unlimited fibre installation day is schedule, at the moment, next Friday 3-May-2013. But having heard about some stories that this online installation may be "fluid", I could only keep my fingures crossed that my fibre installation day remains.
I also have my own PN's e-mail address just in case. However, I'm not sure that can I have these PN's e-mails, both POP3 and SMTP activated,i.e. manage to send and receive e-mails, even now using my existing O2 broadband account if I have set its corresponding Servers' up?? I'm still using my existing O2 's e-mail Servers' accounts as my primary default though!
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well I have 21 mail accounts and I have never seen any restriction on the number you can have with Plusnet
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well, that is a "good" news for me but I actually needed 4 only! I have been surfing the Plusnet pages but I did not recall I have ever seen an official statement stating exactly how many e-mail's user-accounts can be!!
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http://www.plus.net/support/email/common_questions.s...
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Thank you for your "link"!!
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But having heard about some stories that this online installation may be "fluid", I could only keep my fingures crossed that my fibre installation day remains.
Something for you (and Plus.Net staff, and anyone else) to look at would be an article in kast Sunday's Observer: http://is.gd/OpenreachDelays2013 ... link
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I reckon that's worth deleting and reposting in General Chatter. Then edit this deleted one to remove the "DELETED" from the subject and insert a link to the new one in the body.
A great find .
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.2/15.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM
"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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It'd be even better for the TBB staff to do a survey and publish the results.
I suspect many people over the past ~10 months will have their own stories of delayed installs and line repairs. One of my clients wanted a business line and was given (not just by Plus.Net but by all firms we asked) a lead time of a month. The line went live a few days earlier than that, but can you imagine a new restaurant or other High Street business having no ability to accept phone calls for a month after they opened?
(In this case it wasn't actually a restaurant, but that's the kind of place I'd expect to want/need a phone line working from day one, whether to take calls for bookings or from suppliers asking what they needed in the way of wines, meat, vegetables, etc.)
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Never used 1and1 for hosting in the UK (and interested to see they offered 3 years free for people in N America, presumably to get market share, so a friend signed up as she lives in Boston)...
When I wanted a .uk domain to be registered, 1and1 staff lied when telling me that Nominet bans the use of PO Box addresses (Nominet don't, and there was a good reason as it was the safest option at the time for my client {women's refuge}) ... so I moved my domains from them and won't touch them again.
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