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Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Feb-14 04:37:18
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Plusnet is going downhill lately


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According to Broadband.co.uk�s seemingly anecdotal data, little has changed since the end of last year except for the fact that PlusNet saw its average download speeds slashed from 18.933Mbps in Dec 2013 to just 13.844Mbps now (their upload performance also dropped from 4.864Mbps to 3.353Mbps)

Link here: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/02/fastest...

plusnetADSL2+16 Meg
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Feb-14 09:13:00
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That big a drop is probably due to the success on the marketing campaign getting a higher proportion of non fibre customers on the people using their speed test
Actually it is about time they split the results between fibre and non fibre otherwise it is just meaninglerss

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Feb-14 09:48:21
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Those results are really odd. The dataset I'm looking at right now seems to suggest an average increase in both multithreaded and singlethreaded download speeds in January over December.


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Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 09:56:18
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Re: Plusnet is going downhill lately


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Unfortunately the source data doesn�t separate the results out by technology or include smaller ISPs (not enough data).


Making the whole article (and this thread) a complete waste of time.

Perhaps we should discuss something like how many cornflakes you get in a box from each manufacturer? That would be just as informative.
Standard User Rastus
(committed) Tue 04-Feb-14 10:15:45
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Re: Plusnet is going downhill lately


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I had to read your opening paragraph twice because I couldn't believe how clear and well written it was compared to your usual style.

However, clicking on the link soon confirmed my suspicions that it was a copy/paste job.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 04-Feb-14 10:22:58
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Re: Plusnet is going downhill lately


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Those results are probably just a simple database query, rather than an actual analysis where you identify the type of connection each user is using.

The ookla variant used appears to be the peak speed one, i.e. you can pull Ethernet cable out for a few seconds and still get a good result.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Feb-14 10:38:57
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In reply to a post by Rastus:
I had to read your opening paragraph twice because I couldn't believe how clear and well written it was compared to your usual style.


I wonder how many people thought exactly the same thing? (I for one did!)
Standard User Spud2003
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:05:06
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My download speed tests have changed recently, up from 72Mb/s to 75Mb/s - though may well be down to a change of VDSL modem.
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:18:04
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
The ookla variant used...
The speedtest that page links to is ...

http://www.ispreview.co.uk/speed/ "Powered by the thinkbroadband broadband speed test."

Isn't that the one they use?

I still regard the whole article as pointless as they don't differentiate between ADSL and FTTC. The fall in Plusnet upstream points clearly to a smaller proportion of FTTC results being the cause of the average download speed drop. I'm guessing that offering unlimited ADSL2+ at £2.50 a month is the reason there is a smaller proportion of FTTC now..
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:28:04
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But the report and speedtests are from http://www.broadband.co.uk/broadband-speed-test/
Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:28:07
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In reply to a post by kwikbreaks:
I'm guessing that offering unlimited ADSL2+ at £2.50 a month is the reason there is a smaller proportion of FTTC now..

For a long time BT priced their unlimited ADSL2+ at £26, a ludicrous price which seemed to exist so that they could say "hey, why not go VDSL2 instead, same price!".

Thankfully eventually BT backtracked on that nonsense and dropped ADSL2+ to £16, but obviously the price differentials are going to discourage VDSL2 take-up.

Oliver.
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(deleted) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:28:29
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It's just odd because our results have been steadily increasing each month, as you expect as more people pick up fibre. I'm not aware of any event or problem which would break that trend in the last month. It feels like an error somewhere to me :/
Standard User kwikbreaks
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 11:50:30
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Ah - gottit - that is a pointless blog article about a worthless report by a different organisation. All clear to me now,
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 04-Feb-14 12:45:22
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Takes me about a day per ISP to be happy with our analysis and do things like exclude data centre testing

I can do a simple ISP chart in about 10 minutes

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User camieabz
(sensei) Tue 04-Feb-14 13:16:50
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Aren't they making the source data available then?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Feb-14 23:05:42
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In reply to a post by KellyD:
I'm not aware of any event or problem which would break that trend in the last month.
O2/Be ADSL2+ custs escaping Sky to you?

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Feb-14 23:12:54
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I think you could have hit the nail on the head there, well at least 98% of it smile

Alastair
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Feb-14 10:54:44
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If they are all on slower lines and they happen to flood to broadband.co.uk for their speedtests in that month :/
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