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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 11:38:48
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Plusnet get it wrong within minutes of signing up


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Not a good start with Plusnet. Just signed up for the phone and fibre deal at 14.99 / month with first 6 months free. Paid £162.86 for advance line rental so as the first 6 months BB is free, that should leave just £0.99p / month for caller display. Back comes an email saying I'll pay 15.98 for the first 6 months!

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Today you've paid
£162.86 - more detail
Each month you'll pay
£15.98 - for the first 6 months
£15.98 - from month 7
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Opened a support ticket which they say will take at least 10 hours to answer
Are they always this good?
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 12:33:06
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You realise they're just BT under a different brand name?
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 03-Nov-14 12:54:24
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Wrong.

Different products, prices, support, kit, strategy.

A Skoda is not a VW. A Bentley is not a VW.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Mon 03-Nov-14 13:03:56
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Despite the possible wait best to phone CS and get the details sorted for your account, tickets are slow and if you add anything to your ticket before you get a reply it goes further back in the que ...... well it used to do and I doubt that'll have changed been improved.

https://portal.plus.net/supportpages.html?a=212&help...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 13:18:23
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Wrong.

Different products, prices, support, kit, strategy.

A Skoda is not a VW. A Bentley is not a VW.
But that's exactly what I'm saying - Plusnet are Skoda to BT's VW.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 13:24:00
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Hi philflyer,

Glad to hear you've just signed up to Plusnet!

Hmm....That certainly doesn't look right. This may be an error in your welcome email or the account's been incorrectly set up.

Either way, can you PM me your username so that I can take a look into that from our side please?

Thanks.

Regards,
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 13:33:56
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t that's exactly what I'm saying - Plusnet are Skoda to BT's VW.
PN's UK support is Rolls Royce quality when compared to BT's Indian script monkeys. You may have to wait a bit but at least PN's support actually try to help their users.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 14:35:45
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I realise that Plusnet are owned by BT but they are considerably cheaper for both phone and internet. 6 months free plus £50 cashback seems pretty good so I thought I would give them a try as I can't see any reason why the service should be any worse than what I have already experienced if it all goes through the same BT wholesale route . My problems have always been with Openreach rather than BT broadband and I am stuck with them whoever I go with.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 14:52:35
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In reply to a post by philflyer:
My problems have always been with Openreach rather than BT broadband and I am stuck with them whoever I go with.


And the thread is about what?
Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 03-Nov-14 15:26:00
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Skoda now produce VFM cars since being taken over by VW. A decent parent company can make a difference.

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Now Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 03-Nov-14 15:51:08
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Just as Plusnet are a far better and successful company than they were before the takeover smile. The difference between Plusnet and BT is just as marked as between Skoda and VW.

The difference is that VW is highly respected, so pointing out that the resurgent Skoda belongs to them is an explanation, whereas saying Plusnet is a brand name of BT to me implies a slur - given how poor BT Retail is when it comes to consumer level support.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 03-Nov-14 16:34:54
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PlusNet were an amazing company 10 years ago. They were a real techies ISP with amazing support and good value products. They then had a pretty serious dip as they became more and more mainstream. They seem to be on the up again but I wouldn't say they have managed to get back to how good they were in their prime.
Standard User flippery
(committed) Mon 03-Nov-14 16:45:04
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Just as Plusnet are a far better and successful company than they were before the takeover smile. The difference between Plusnet and BT is just as marked as between Skoda and VW.

The difference is that VW is highly respected, so pointing out that the resurgent Skoda belongs to them is an explanation, whereas saying Plusnet is a brand name of BT to me implies a slur - given how poor BT Retail is when it comes to consumer level support.



Plusnet better than BT, would not have a clue. I am with BT and have not had a problem in last 2 years.
How are you judging BT for support? Do you have recent call to use?

Plusnet 3 BT 0 today

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Standard User professor973
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 03-Nov-14 16:55:36
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Far worse than BT. Never seen so many switching jobs screw up connecting to another provider. Tickets and phone response seem even worse than when I was with them. Begin to wonder if there is such a thing as a good supplier. Ticket ignored by Zen after they switched me to the wrong higher priced phone package. May as well pay Primus or TT prices.

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 17:03:00
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I'm happy with the comparison of Plusnet being the Skoda of BT's VW and I look forward to adverts made of cake wink

I've not had any trouble with BT Retail consumer support and some of the posters in their Community forums are clearly expert.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 03-Nov-14 17:46:59
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Don't people there get banned for dissent and complaining about non-resolution of long-standing complaints?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 18:00:06
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They basically get banned for aggressive or disruptive posting, just like a lot of forums
Standard User therioman
(knowledge is power) Mon 03-Nov-14 18:38:34
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Don't worry - "they'll do you proud"

Or "they'll do you".

That's a plusnet aka BT second brand thing.

Enjoy!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 03-Nov-14 19:43:51
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Well I've just had a reply from Plusnet support agreeing that the email is incorrect but saying that the advance line rental is being tracked correctly and "Your bill should be generated correctly moving forward". Surely these emails are generated automatically so there must be dozens of incorrect ones being sent out.
Standard User Malwaremike
(committed) Mon 03-Nov-14 20:22:27
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In reply to a post by MCM:
Plusnet are Skoda to BT's VW.
PN's UK support is Rolls Royce quality when compared to BT's Indian script monkeys. You may have to wait a bit but at least PN's support actually try to help their users.

At least the Indian script monkeys answered within 5-10 minutes and as a non-techie I found them very helpful. After years with BT I moved to Plusnet this summer, largely on the recommendations on this website. Plusnet cut us off on transfer day, it proved impossible to reach phone support, and on the one occasion when my wife did get a reply (after 35 minutes) the agent was uncaring and unhelpful. From my experience since then, and postings here and on PN's own forum, I fear Plusnet has expanded too quickly, as TalkTalk did six years ago, and is rapidly throwing away its reputation and goodwill.

The reps who patrol this website are excellent but if they are diverted to other duties PN may regret it. My PN connection is fine (except when like thousands of customers we've been cut off, as happened last month) but I cannot recommend them on the basis of my first five months.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Nov-14 01:23:43
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I just want to point out that a Plusnet admin responded to you here (on an unofficial forum) within 2 hours of you posting.

Do you realise how long it takes for an official response on the Virgin Media forums? 4-5 days MINIMUM.

Take that as you may. I highly doubt VM will respond to unofficial tickets as fast as what happened on these forums.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 04-Nov-14 16:56:10
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Thanks for sending me your details. I've responded to your PM.

Regards,
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Tue 04-Nov-14 19:12:19
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....... and who do you work for is your ISP? tongue

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Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 04-Nov-14 22:01:32
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And just like Skoda winning awards (VW not so many) so do PNet (BT not so many either).

Somebody votes for them.

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Now Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 04-Nov-14 22:53:45
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Yep, the whole system is corrupt, with customers being paid to vote.

LOL

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User broadband66
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 05-Nov-14 12:59:00
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But does that show that the majority are happy for the amount they pay?

As we all know, most posts on these forums are about issues people are having. Would be nice to have an idea about the number of users with issues compared to those without.

I was more than happy with my O2 standard price and speed. I'm now paying less but getting similar download and less upload with UW via TT. Had a couple of issues but were sorted fairly quickly.

Was Eclipse Home Option 1, VM 2Mb & O2 Standard
Now Utility Warehouse (up to 16mbps) via Talk Talk
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 05-Nov-14 14:17:09
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Well there are 764,000 online at the moment.

The emergency maintenance they announced earlier seems to be a problem with ptn-bng02 and ptw-bng02. I wonder if ptw-bng02 is to replace ptn-bng02, at least for the moment.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 05-Nov-14 14:17:54
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In reply to a post by broadband66:
As we all know, most posts on these forums are about issues people are having. Would be nice to have an idea about the number of users with issues compared to those without.


Ah, come on........now you're being sensible!
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Wed 05-Nov-14 21:13:16
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wow a lot of new bng's there, they seem aggressive in getting more live, when they dont seem stable and dont even support ipv6 yet.

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 05-Nov-14 21:26:44
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Spot on!

I only noticed today that they also have higher user-connectivity. But definitely giving trouble.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Wed 05-Nov-14 22:51:14
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Will the bigger uptake of FTTC products have anything to do with it?

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Wed 05-Nov-14 23:33:01
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The higher capacity of them; the fact they are installing them; or their unreliability?

I don't really think it's either of the first two. Just newer type kit to handle Plusnet's continuing rapid growth, and that kit hasn't been adequately tested in the field before.

Where Plusnet may have gone wrong is in installing so many when IIRC the first couple were dodgy. They should have been sorted out before adding more.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Thu 06-Nov-14 15:15:08
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any reported events from todays emergency maintenance? ptn-bg01 may crash soon its over 50k users.

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 06-Nov-14 15:40:51
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It was running at 53.54 yesterday afternoon and didn't fall over smile.

There was an email yesterday about today:-
Posted: Wed, Nov 05 2014 at 12:53:26
Subject: Emergency Network Maintenance Thursday 6th November 14:00-15:00

When's this work happening?
Tomorrow afternoon, 6th November 2014

What does it affect?
Broadband connectivity.

How long will it take?
Expected to take 1 hour.

What does the work involve?
We're making some changes to parts of our broadband network to allow us to increase overall network stability.
You're on Plusnet aren't you? You could register to receive Service Status emails on this page. That also shows the last few in the archive.

Other options also available - I might check those out. At least one (latency) seems to be either dead or down. I suspect dead.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.

Edited by RobertoS (Thu 06-Nov-14 15:41:44)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 06-Nov-14 16:29:15
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LOL, ptw-bng02 is currently showing 774 .97, with the column total only and incorrect 47.03. The column total is merely a delay in the updating process and is often zero, but the ptw-bng02 id not a typo by me.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 56.4/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - IPv4BQM IPv6BQM

"Angels can fly because they can take themselves lightly." - G K Chesterton.
Standard User Chrysalis
(legend) Fri 07-Nov-14 08:14:23
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of course, its in my sig and I am still on a ipv6 account, I make sure I am on the old gateways tho so wont be immediately aware if a bng crashes.

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