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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 08-Jan-16 21:06:59
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Re: plusnet new network


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Try doing a tracert to ntp.plus.net I think you will find it obvious when/if you have moved.


Is anyone aware of any other signs?

Would we see a resync occur too? Or just a new PPP connection?

And would we see anything appear in the list of closed tickets?
Standard User Jaggies
(committed) Sat 09-Jan-16 00:56:57
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Re: plusnet new network


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In reply to a post by WWWombat:
Is anyone aware of any other signs?


You get a text message advising that your Broadband order is complete?

Brian
From September 2001 on BTopenworld Home 500/Home 1000/Home 2000. Then ADSLMax on <n>ildram. Moved to ADSL2+ from ADSL24. I'm now with plusnet on FTTC since 28/05/2014 and loving it... I'm not saying who I work for. Any opinions expressed here are my own.
Standard User professor973
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 09-Jan-16 01:12:17
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
Being part of the BT group and reselling BT services, I would have thought that subject to agreement, Plusnet could easily supply anything BT supplies, but what do I know. To be honest, apart from running out of IPV4 addresses, I don't know enough about it to see a need for it, but see a lot of 'I want' from folks. Not seen any benefit it would bring to me now.

Edited by professor973 (Sat 09-Jan-16 02:46:39)


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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Jan-16 10:22:38
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: Oliver341] [link to this post]
 
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It's a shame. That means that although Plusnet were one of the first mainstream DSL ISPs to trial IPv6, they will probably be one of the last to roll-out, now that the Sky roll-out is well underway and BT are due to start rolling out within weeks.



What difference will it make to joe public anyway? i don't care if i am using IPv5 or 6 as long as I can get on the net at a decent speed.

I know IPv4 addresses are running out, but at the moment it is not concerning me, also the majority of routers will not work with Ipv6 anyway.

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Jan-16 10:40:39
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


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What difference will it make to joe public anyway? i don't care if i am using IPv5 or 6 as long as I can get on the net at a decent speed.


If the website you want to connect to is only available over IPv6 you just won't be able to see it. Even if you know the name. Say you're into cars, and the latest interesting supercar is on http://supercarreviews.com but that site is only able to get an IPv6 address as all the IPv4 have run out.

In asia there are already websites only on IPv6, but currently none are in English.

I know IPv4 addresses are running out, but at the moment it is not concerning me, also the majority of routers will not work with Ipv6 anyway.


IPv4 HAS run out. There are none left that have not been allocated - this is why ISPs are starting to trade address blocks, with the geo-IP affects people have seen. Routers can be updated, its a pretty pathetic router that doesn't have IPv6 support.

Windows since 2000, Mac OS from the same time, Linux forever, iOS and Android and Windows Phone all have supported IPv6.

Its just the ISPs we are waiting on.

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Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Sat 09-Jan-16 11:10:12
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
Have you tried playing this little game: http://loopsofzen.co.uk

jelv

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Jan-16 11:30:56
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: jchamier] [link to this post]
 
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If the website you want to connect to is only available over IPv6 you just won't be able to see it. Even if you know the name. Say you're into cars, and the latest interesting supercar is on http://supercarreviews.com but that site is only able to get an IPv6 address as all the IPv4 have run out.

In asia there are already websites only on IPv6, but currently none are in English.


I thought that internet providers can get around that internally? i know eventually we will all have to go IPv6, but I do not think there is any rush and it is going to cost a lot of providers money.

IPv4 HAS run out. There are none left that have not been allocated - this is why ISPs are starting to trade address blocks, with the geo-IP affects people have seen. Routers can be updated, its a pretty pathetic router that doesn't have IPv6 support.


I was not sure if they had run out, i know they was pretty close and I know that there is know large blocks of it.
If I router could be updated then why are providers like BT sending out new routers? It would be cheaper to update older routers. Also if say a provider have to send out a new router because of IPv6, they can not force the user to sign up to another contract, so that user could get a new router and pop off elsewhere.
Ok i know some routers are locked to their providers, BT for instance, but others are not.

My router is a Sagem, and I doubt that can be updated to IPv6, I do have a TP link, but again it is not Ipv6 and no way am I going to enter into another contract with plusnet just to get another router.
Windows since 2000, Mac OS from the same time, Linux forever, iOS and Android and Windows Phone all have supported IPv6.

Its just the ISPs we are waiting on.


I never saw IPv6 in windows xp or windows 7 for that matter the first I saw it is Windows 8

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Jan-16 11:32:56
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: jelv] [link to this post]
 
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Have you tried playing this little game: http://loopsofzen.co.uk



I do not play games online, what is so special about that link?

Adrian

Desktop machine now powered by windows 8 pro 64bit, no dreaded metro and Linux , laptop by Linux

Plusnet FTTC
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Sat 09-Jan-16 12:25:47
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


[re: zyborg47] [link to this post]
 
It's mentioned here:-

https://support.aa.net.uk/IPv6_Only

As you say Joe public isn't aware of this stuff and just wants the internet to work.

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Jan-16 13:47:19
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Re: Plusnet stuck in 20th Century


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Also, carrier grade NAT will need to be increasingly deployed on IPv4 so that IP addresses can be shared. This means, for people on CGN, they can no longer open up listening ports for things like mail, web & ftp servers, peer to peer software, VoIP/SIP and online games.

If the customers had IPv6 in addition to their CGN IPv4 addresses, they could open up listening ports and communicate with each other without issue.

Oliver.
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