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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:09:18
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Your not gonna want to here this but your line is performing within the correct ranges...

My line is consier Impacted yet it passes all GEA tests and engineer tests....

My line was also engineer installed.... I could go on but the fact is your not going to get much out of Plusnet, their hands are tied, your lines perfomring within the acceptable ranges for your connection... disregard the fact that you or anyone thinks your line is clean or impacted the range goes from top of range A to bottom of range B....

My estimates:
FTTC Range A (Clean) 80 67.6 20 20 -- Available
FTTC Range B (Impacted) 71.7 40 20 9.3 -- Available


My line was running at 56mb when I had Interleaving on 'like you', G.INP brought it up to 69mb...

Do bare in mind I had 116mb sync in January this year, and due to crosstalk that dropped slowly until one afternoon when I lost 14Mb, it was due to a pair swap 'that I requested' that I got an extra 3mb back... or I would still be sitting here with 65/66mb.

So if I was you just chill out for a week or two, wait for G.INP to come back on after the reset and you'll probably see your speed back up in the 40-45mb before you know it.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 10-May-16 20:20:09
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But as I keep saying this is not degradation of the line due to crosstalk etc. this was caused by the ineptitude of Openreach.

I've been on the same Cabinet for 4 years or so and it is already full too, even if it wasn't I hardly think there was a sudden influx of new connections at exactly the same time on the same date as I had 3 failed Openreach visits that progressively lowered my line rate.

It cannot be considered impacted as it quite simply is not, therefore I expect it to perform within the boundary of the A range and I know it can actually perform above that, I have plenty of proof.

As also pointed out I do not have G.INP I'm on an ECI cabinet and the speeds I had where with Interleaving on the line.

As said Andy Baker has actually responded to me again, so let's see what happens.

Edited by deleted (Tue 10-May-16 20:23:20)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 10-May-16 20:25:45
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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
Do bare in mind I had 116mb sync in January this year ....
Nope. You didn't.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59546/15321kbps @ 600m. - BQM

Edited by RobertoS (Tue 10-May-16 20:26:40)


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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:29:24
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I'm sorry but how would you know for sure this was BT's fault.....

All we have right now is your line being slower than it was before, this can be caused by a line reset removing G.INP which can remove a significan't ammount of speed on its own...

This would of been replaced with interleaving which 'has' increased your ing and lowered your speed even further....

the 2nd time BT visited they might of trigger the DLM to push more interleaving when the line was disconnected...

As far as crosstalk goes, its not the only speed killer, in my case a local noise source knocked 15mb off my connection aswell as the neighbours who's connections I've been able to look at.

So the chances are that your line may fix itself in time by getting G.INP reassigned to it, however at this moment the more messing with it thats done the worse if anything....

Theres a chance you've been moved to a not as good pair but to be honest not many pairs are any good these days.

I don't mean to sound [censored] to phone engineers here but there isn't that much to connecting a line up to the PCP and the master socket, there isn't anything in my oppion that an engineer can do wrong to cause such a problem with your Broadband.

Fact is right now your just below the estimates and that speeds going to increase, no doubt so just leave it alone.... no one can do anything now, its down to the computer in the DSLAM, knowboyd has any control over that.

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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:30:47
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
Do bare in mind I had 116mb sync in January this year ....
Nope. You didn't.


OK, I had an attainble.... You knew what I meant, Thanks for your valued imput though... it was very helpful!

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 10-May-16 20:34:13
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The speeds in your sig are misleading too
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 10-May-16 20:40:44
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No need to be sarcastic. This is a technical forum and the technical words matter. Particular when you are purporting to give advice to somebody else.

Not everyone reading will know you did not have that sync.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - AAISP Home::1 80/20. Sync 59546/15321kbps @ 600m. - BQM
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:41:32
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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
I'm sorry but how would you know for sure this was BT's fault.....

All we have right now is your line being slower than it was before, this can be caused by a line reset removing G.INP which can remove a significan't ammount of speed on its own...

This would of been replaced with interleaving which 'has' increased your ing and lowered your speed even further....

the 2nd time BT visited they might of trigger the DLM to push more interleaving when the line was disconnected...

As far as crosstalk goes, its not the only speed killer, in my case a local noise source knocked 15mb off my connection aswell as the neighbours who's connections I've been able to look at.

So the chances are that your line may fix itself in time by getting G.INP reassigned to it, however at this moment the more messing with it thats done the worse if anything....

Theres a chance you've been moved to a not as good pair but to be honest not many pairs are any good these days.

I don't mean to sound [censored] to phone engineers here but there isn't that much to connecting a line up to the PCP and the master socket, there isn't anything in my oppion that an engineer can do wrong to cause such a problem with your Broadband.

Fact is right now your just below the estimates and that speeds going to increase, no doubt so just leave it alone.... no one can do anything now, its down to the computer in the DSLAM, knowboyd has any control over that.

The OP is on a ECI cab and G.inp until very recently has not been available to any customers on ECI cabs, and it after a short time whilst rolling it out was removed
again, So it's doubtful G.inp is responsible

My guess is the OP also pays plusnet for line rental, and they have requested telephone engineers from OR in a bid to save money, and the first engineer would appear to have swapped the pair and was unable to test that pair Not good enough, if you have bb running on that pair IMO ,
Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:42:21
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
The speeds in your sig are misleading too


Lucky I don't have to adhere to any regulation then isn't it.

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Standard User mlmclaren
(knowledge is power) Tue 10-May-16 20:43:55
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
No need to be sarcastic. This is a technical forum and the technical words matter. Particular when you are purporting to give advice to somebody else.

Not everyone reading will know you did not have that sync.


Appologies but your comment wasn't very friendly either.

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