O2 Wireless Box working on Sky

Looks like the Sky network is accepting the O2 Wireless Box as a compatible router. Not sure if any of the automatic migrations have completed yet, but it's good news for those who are going that route.

O2_ADSL
Connection Information
Uptime: 0 days, 0:02:53
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/MB]: 272.61 / 2.74
Username: [email protected]
Password: ********
Remember Password: Yes
IP Address: 46.64.176.xx
Primary DNS: 90.207.238.97
Secondary DNS: 90.207.238.99

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

Looks like the Sky network is accepting the O2 Wireless Box as a compatible router. Not sure if any of the automatic migrations have completed yet, but it's good news for those who are going that route.

Can you tell if its using PPPoA or IPoA ? I assume as you posted a capture that included a username that its using the PPP login. If so I guess Sky are allowing PPP on their LLU lines at last.

This would be a breakthrough for alternative router users; but might be a performance disadvantage, and can limit the MTU available.

Edited by jchamier (Thu 21-Nov-13 20:54:15)

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Can you tell if its using PPPoA or IPoA ? I assume as you posted a capture that included a username that its using the PPP login.

It's PPPoA, same PPPoA login as O2 Access used on O2 WBC connections.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

If so I guess Sky are allowing PPP on their LLU lines at last. This would be a breakthrough for alternative router users; but might be a performance disadvantage, and can limit the MTU available.

MER was used on ADSL2+ lines for a while, and seemed to run concurrently in most cases with PPPoA. So PPPoA on Sky has been the norm over the years despite the brief foray into MER.

There's no MTU disadvantage on PPPoA, it's PPPoE which loses MTU.

Fibre is always MER.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Can you tell if its using PPPoA or IPoA ? I assume as you posted a capture that included a username that its using the PPP login.

It's PPPoA, same PPPoA login as O2 Access used on O2 WBC connections.

Ah-ha, that makes sense and means the router can be used without any firmware changes. It won't be as easy for the BE routers though.

MER was used on ADSL2+ lines for a while, and seemed to run concurrently in most cases with PPPoA. So PPPoA on Sky has been the norm over the years despite the brief foray into MER.

There's no MTU disadvantage on PPPoA, it's PPPoE which loses MTU.

Good point, I'd forgotten that, having been away from PPPoA for a long time. Yes the BT HH router can do the necessary magic to get 1500byte MTU through PPPoE but most third party routers don't.

Fibre is always MER.

Okay - my friend was MER on his Sky LLU ADSL, and I think he still is, but I'll check this weekend.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

It won't be as easy for the BE routers though.

This ties in nicely with the news from the BE forum that BE routers are having the O2 PPPoA login remotely added to their BE routers.

In reply to a post by jchamier:

Okay - my friend was MER on his Sky LLU ADSL, and I think he still is, but I'll check this weekend.

My exchange/area migrated Sky ADSL LLU from MER back to PPPoA a long time ago (although PPPoA worked throughout). It's possible not all exchanges are migrated yet though.

Nice to know, I've kept my o2 router just in case this would happen, so I can use it as backup if my skybox were to fail. Thanks !

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

In reply to a post by jchamier:

It won't be as easy for the BE routers though.

This ties in nicely with the news from the BE forum that BE routers are having the O2 PPPoA login remotely added to their BE routers.

Okay, hopefully they'll publish the info before cutover for those who don't use the BE router.

My exchange/area migrated Sky ADSL LLU from MER back to PPPoA a long time ago (although PPPoA worked throughout). It's possible not all exchanges are migrated yet though.

I suspect that is the case here.

On investigating further, it looks like the user/pass details for O2 PPPoA (which also works on Sky) are:

User: [email protected]
Pass: install

This could be used by O2/BE migrants using their own router, and in fact could probably be used by anyone on Sky wanting to use their own router.

In reply to a post by Oliver341:

On investigating further, it looks like the user/pass details for O2 PPPoA (which also works on Sky) are:

User: [email protected]
Pass: install

This could be used by O2/BE migrants using their own router, and in fact could probably be used by anyone on Sky wanting to use their own router.

Useful to know!

Well it seems sometime during the night I was moved over to Sky as part of the automatic transfers. I had been told it would be Nov/Dec but had no further information as to when. Wireless Box 2 seems to be working fine logged in with the PPP connection. My username has a number in front of the o2broadband.co.uk bit instead of 'install'. So migrations are now happening...

Since I have had no update from Sky I have not been supplied with any login information for the MySky page, hopefully that will arrive soon.