Sky fibre in non-LLU exchanges

It is well known that Sky ADSL is very slow in exchanges without Sky LLU.

Is the same true for Sky fibre in exchanges where Sky has no LLU presence?

Edited by Oliver341 (Fri 27-Dec-13 23:32:17)

I may be wrong but have you not stated the same thing on each line?

that said. On a non LLU exchange, SHY have to buy the service from someone else (BT wholesale) and may run that to a limit that uses all of the service up!! (this may be a good service nor not so good depending on the number of users on that exchange). On an exchange that they have a direct LLU service themselves, then they may run that at a level that is zippy and fast!!!. For me on ADSL LLU and now SKY FTTC I did not have any performance problems

In reply to a post by iand:

I may be wrong but have you not stated the same thing on each line?

Nope, first line was a statement, second line was a question. First line was about ADSL, second line was about VDSL.

In reply to a post by iand:

that said. On a non LLU exchange, SHY have to buy the service from someone else (BT wholesale) and may run that to a limit that uses all of the service up!! (this may be a good service nor not so good depending on the number of users on that exchange). On an exchange that they have a direct LLU service themselves, then they may run that at a level that is zippy and fast!!!. For me on ADSL LLU and now SKY FTTC I did not have any performance problems

Your post suggests that Sky fibre on exchanges that Sky have LLU'ed is faster that Sky fibre on exchanges that is not. That's what I suspect too.

Perhaps what I'm wondering is whether Sky can install their own backhaul from an exchange which they haven't LLU'ed for the purposes of providing faster speeds on Sky fibre, or whether they can only install backhaul on an exchange which has a Sky LLU presence on ADSL.

Sky were only offering Sky Fibre on SOME of the LLU enabled exchanges... has this changed?

Sky Fibre wasn't available at any exchange where there is no Sky LLU and was reliant on Sky buying a GEA cable link.

Do Sky now offer Fibre on non-LLU exchanges?

For FTTC , backhaul is only required at the handover sites, not every FTTC enabled exchange. A handover site may cater for 6 or more FTTC exchange areas.

Interesting.

How do you find out which exchanges are handover sites?

... I probably should get the login details for Openreach from work at some point to have a look...

Last I knew was that you didn't even find out what cabinets were connected until you purchased a GEA cable link to the switch and it went live, and there might be a choice of switches if the exchange is large.

In reply to a post by 5km:

Do Sky now offer Fibre on non-LLU exchanges?

I don't know, but I guess if they don't then that answers my question.

You can get sky fibre at SOME exchanges without LLU. Those who have it haven't suggested there are any issues. How it works not sure.

I guess CPs buying FTTC from Openreach have that info available .

I'm working tomorrow so I'll get the login details and have a look ... if I get the time.